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Just depending on the angle your looking at the game,as LEDs can be v bright
Got to admit it's a pretty cool effect. :whoo: Watched the Youtube footage and it's been done very well (although the first thing I had to do on youtube was turn the sound right down!). Would be interested to see if these little bits cause Stern to up their quality
Getting excited about your machine Jonathan? Any idea how many are going to make it across from the US? Is anyone going to be brave enough to bring one to an event and let the general masses get their sticky mitts on it?
Getting excited about your machine Jonathan? Any idea how many are going to make it across from the US? Is anyone going to be brave enough to bring one to an event and let the general masses get their sticky mitts on it?
Agree ...every time some new WOZ toy is revealed I excitedly and eagerly check it out ....forgetting that within seconds the music and soundbites have me stabbing myself in the ear with a rusty knife :lalala:...or yes turning the sound down
Shame - but I am gonna really struggle to 'listen' to this game.
It does look good proof will be in the playing.
the crystal ball showing video is a masterstroke :eeek:
I can't wait for the release into the hands of the Bowen Kerins of this world, who can show it off in its best light, show us all the shots and the fun to be had on it.
I can't wait for the release into the hands of the Bowen Kerins of this world, who can show it off in its best light, show us all the shots and the fun to be had on it.
"We would like to update you on our plans to ship production games. We have continued to refine certain details of the game and are confident that we will be shipping customer games sometime in early 2013, roughly 90 days from now. Games will ship in the queue in which the game order was placed."
90 days from now they plan to start. That's early March for the guy at the front of the queue. Shall we have a sweepstake on the delivery of Jonathan's game? I reckon June 7th
90 days from now they plan to start. That's early March for the guy at the front of the queue. Shall we have a sweepstake on the delivery of Jonathan's game? I reckon June 7th
Wow. Is this thing ever gonna be finished, they need to draft in some more frickin Munchkins :whip:
I hear they have a vacancy at JJ's for a sound tester. The last guy had to retire on 'medical' grounds..
The cabinet, playfield, mechanics, electronics, gizmos all look absolutely incredible. Totally blows away Sterns recent efforts.
But then they show some gameplay, and it looked a drain monster. Drains to the outlanes from rebounds right at the top of the playfield. Still players struggling to make that ramp shot with any power, and even getting the ball stuck on that ramp. Arguably not best set up on that trolley. Hope the final product plays better than any of the videos we've seen so far.
But then they show some gameplay, and it looked a drain monster. Drains to the outlanes from rebounds right at the top of the playfield. Still players struggling to make that ramp shot with any power, and even getting the ball stuck on that ramp. Arguably not best set up on that trolley. Hope the final product plays better than any of the videos we've seen so far.
The ramps aren't an issue, I've seen people hit 5 shots in a row. The hang up at the back will have a fix before shipping, in sure. That's what the test games are for!
I'm off to EAG next month to meet Jack so hopefully the software will be a bit further on by then
I'm off to EAG next month to meet Jack so hopefully the software will be a bit further on by then
Hey mr wizzcat never question the woz ever lol!!
The first rule of WOZ Club is you don't talk about WOZ Club ....well you can ...but just don't mention flaky gameplay videos, irritating music, and the never ending software saga
Why, oh why, oh why can they spend so much time giving guided tours but can't put the machines together.
The production line is there, a lot of parts are there, what is missing? How can they be paying rent and salaries but not getting any income? (I guess they are burning their deposit fund.)
I respect you Jonathon for not losing your calm but seriously, why are we not seeing them in the wild yet?
The production line is there, a lot of parts are there, what is missing? How can they be paying rent and salaries but not getting any income? (I guess they are burning their deposit fund.)
I respect you Jonathon for not losing your calm but seriously, why are we not seeing them in the wild yet?
Hardware isn't the problem. They have the parts ready to build hundreds of machines.
This is a ground up pinball machine. Keith Johnson needs to program each individual RGB LED, a full LCD screen with hundreds of video clips, a smaller LCD screen, all of the in depth ruleset. There is wi fi connectivity to program, an interactive switch matrix etc. etc.
And he needs to do all of this on an operating system that hasn't been used before.
Stern have the basics every time they start a new machine, the groundwork was done years ago and they have 3 teams going at any one time on 3 different games. You are still looking at a years production time, you just don't get to hear about it until its nearly ready to be released.
I'm in no hurry, I've waited 15months, what's another 3?
This is a ground up pinball machine. Keith Johnson needs to program each individual RGB LED, a full LCD screen with hundreds of video clips, a smaller LCD screen, all of the in depth ruleset. There is wi fi connectivity to program, an interactive switch matrix etc. etc.
And he needs to do all of this on an operating system that hasn't been used before.
Stern have the basics every time they start a new machine, the groundwork was done years ago and they have 3 teams going at any one time on 3 different games. You are still looking at a years production time, you just don't get to hear about it until its nearly ready to be released.
I'm in no hurry, I've waited 15months, what's another 3?
The losses must be escalating far too much. I wonder if they have a viable business? Or are they the Man City of the pinball world - owners with deep pockets?
I'm surprised that they just don't crack on and build the machines in parallel with the software being written. They could get a load of machines ready while Keith works on the code and then copy it on to them at the end just before shipping. I don't get why they'd wait for the software to be complete before putting the physical machine together :noidea:
I'm assuming Keith is writing the software as a one man band?
I'm assuming Keith is writing the software as a one man band?
They are 
There have already been machines shipped across America and to Australia and Phil is due to get one in the UK in the next couple of weeks. Many more are in the process of being made. They will get updates as the software progresses
http://forum-img.pinside.com/pinball/forum/?bb_attachments=543407&bbat=59359&inline&fullsize
There have already been machines shipped across America and to Australia and Phil is due to get one in the UK in the next couple of weeks. Many more are in the process of being made. They will get updates as the software progresses
http://forum-img.pinside.com/pinball/forum/?bb_attachments=543407&bbat=59359&inline&fullsize
Here's a review of the game by one of the American guys
On Friday, December 14, 2012, I too was a lucky JJP guest at the Jersey Jack facility in Lakewood, NJ. My impressions are as follows:
THE FACILITY & PRODUCTION ESTIMATES: Jack gave me a tour. He estimated that JJP will initially produce about 15 games per day and that this number is a function of absolute quality control. In other words, Jack's main objective is to produce the highest quality machine as opposed to risking same by making them more quickly. The facility has millions of dollars of parts and supplies on site. The individual manufacturing stations were open for all to see. I was impressed.
THE BACKGLASS: Jack advised that there are 4 (could be 3) different versions inasmuch as one of the 4 lines from the film (e.g. There's No Place Like Home) appears at the bottom of the backglass. All of the lines were equally memorable. I think that this variable will add to the fun when WOZLE owners unveil their respective machines.
THE OWNER'S PLAQUE: The owner's limited edition numbered plaque will be fitted into a space on the left apron. Jack states that the machine's program will identify itself at start-up with the owner's individual game number. . .very cool. Naturally, this feature also reduces LE pirating, as has been a phenomenon with other LE games.
THE GAME: I played the game a couple dozen times, both alone and as one of several on multiplayer. Some balls played quite long whereas others drained quickly, just the way pinball ought to be in my view. WOZ offers the player an extensive variety of targets and objectives. The flippers were strong, the flow was logical and the shots were rewarding. The magnets adjacent to the melting witch really make the ball tremor. The balloon bumper left outline minigame is a blast. I kept wondering if an errant bump might return the ball to the playfield. The trumper bumpers are terrific and the crystal ball is simply elegant. I suspect that in dimmer light, the crystal ball's projections will be more visible. I got the Winged Monkey to transport the ball, which he does smoothly. I like the munchkinland multiball delivery because it's visible, unlike some other multi ball games. I got Dorothy's house to spin; however, I wasn't able to get the Wicked Witch of the East's legs to appear. . .perhaps I'll get to see the crushed legs the next time. The Dorothy's house right upper playfield layout is challenging. By holding the flipper up after a solid flip, you can obtain two successful revolutions and then repeat the process if your timing is good. I was far less capable with the left upper Wicked Witch's Castle mini-playfield shot through the doors, although I had fun trying. I know that the WOZ games I played were unfinished. However, this unfinished game eclipses every game made to date by others. JJP has established a new gold standard for pinball. I cannot report that much about the backglass animation because I couldn't take my eyes off the playfield, even when I was viewing another player's game. Aesthetically, the playfield is magnificent. The RGB LED lights are brilliant, both figuratively and literally. I inspected the cabinet art close up. It's uncanny: bright, crisp, smooth, perfect. Jack described the cabinet painting process which requires the cabinet to go to the painter and then back to the cabinet maker, an arduous process, but well worth the effort. As a pinball enthusiast who gravitates toward unlicensed themes, allow me to allay the trepidation of my fellow mates on this blog who have been tepid about the WOZ theme. The quality of the fit and finish dominate. Because of the noise level, I am unable to fully review the sound elements. Notwithstanding the room noise, I found the music, voice and other sounds to be excellent. WOZ has a deep ruleset. Nevertheless, I suspect that neophytes will enjoy it as much as skilled players. I have collected pinball machines for several decades and I've owned dozens of games from every era. I have about 17 at the moment. My skill as a player is average. Gauge my review based upon that background. I solicited the opinions of others at the event. The uniform response was that the game was incredibly fun to play and wonderful to view from a visual standpoint. Moreover, everyone commented upon the very high quality workmanship, from the wooden apron to the sparkling playfield. WOZ is indeed the groundbreaking game that us pre-order folks wanted it to be.
JACK & STAFF: Jack, Jen and staff were exceedingly cordial hosts. They have good reason to be proud of WOZ and of the JJP company. This game is going to make a lot of people smile (not JJP's competitors, though).
On Friday, December 14, 2012, I too was a lucky JJP guest at the Jersey Jack facility in Lakewood, NJ. My impressions are as follows:
THE FACILITY & PRODUCTION ESTIMATES: Jack gave me a tour. He estimated that JJP will initially produce about 15 games per day and that this number is a function of absolute quality control. In other words, Jack's main objective is to produce the highest quality machine as opposed to risking same by making them more quickly. The facility has millions of dollars of parts and supplies on site. The individual manufacturing stations were open for all to see. I was impressed.
THE BACKGLASS: Jack advised that there are 4 (could be 3) different versions inasmuch as one of the 4 lines from the film (e.g. There's No Place Like Home) appears at the bottom of the backglass. All of the lines were equally memorable. I think that this variable will add to the fun when WOZLE owners unveil their respective machines.
THE OWNER'S PLAQUE: The owner's limited edition numbered plaque will be fitted into a space on the left apron. Jack states that the machine's program will identify itself at start-up with the owner's individual game number. . .very cool. Naturally, this feature also reduces LE pirating, as has been a phenomenon with other LE games.
THE GAME: I played the game a couple dozen times, both alone and as one of several on multiplayer. Some balls played quite long whereas others drained quickly, just the way pinball ought to be in my view. WOZ offers the player an extensive variety of targets and objectives. The flippers were strong, the flow was logical and the shots were rewarding. The magnets adjacent to the melting witch really make the ball tremor. The balloon bumper left outline minigame is a blast. I kept wondering if an errant bump might return the ball to the playfield. The trumper bumpers are terrific and the crystal ball is simply elegant. I suspect that in dimmer light, the crystal ball's projections will be more visible. I got the Winged Monkey to transport the ball, which he does smoothly. I like the munchkinland multiball delivery because it's visible, unlike some other multi ball games. I got Dorothy's house to spin; however, I wasn't able to get the Wicked Witch of the East's legs to appear. . .perhaps I'll get to see the crushed legs the next time. The Dorothy's house right upper playfield layout is challenging. By holding the flipper up after a solid flip, you can obtain two successful revolutions and then repeat the process if your timing is good. I was far less capable with the left upper Wicked Witch's Castle mini-playfield shot through the doors, although I had fun trying. I know that the WOZ games I played were unfinished. However, this unfinished game eclipses every game made to date by others. JJP has established a new gold standard for pinball. I cannot report that much about the backglass animation because I couldn't take my eyes off the playfield, even when I was viewing another player's game. Aesthetically, the playfield is magnificent. The RGB LED lights are brilliant, both figuratively and literally. I inspected the cabinet art close up. It's uncanny: bright, crisp, smooth, perfect. Jack described the cabinet painting process which requires the cabinet to go to the painter and then back to the cabinet maker, an arduous process, but well worth the effort. As a pinball enthusiast who gravitates toward unlicensed themes, allow me to allay the trepidation of my fellow mates on this blog who have been tepid about the WOZ theme. The quality of the fit and finish dominate. Because of the noise level, I am unable to fully review the sound elements. Notwithstanding the room noise, I found the music, voice and other sounds to be excellent. WOZ has a deep ruleset. Nevertheless, I suspect that neophytes will enjoy it as much as skilled players. I have collected pinball machines for several decades and I've owned dozens of games from every era. I have about 17 at the moment. My skill as a player is average. Gauge my review based upon that background. I solicited the opinions of others at the event. The uniform response was that the game was incredibly fun to play and wonderful to view from a visual standpoint. Moreover, everyone commented upon the very high quality workmanship, from the wooden apron to the sparkling playfield. WOZ is indeed the groundbreaking game that us pre-order folks wanted it to be.
JACK & STAFF: Jack, Jen and staff were exceedingly cordial hosts. They have good reason to be proud of WOZ and of the JJP company. This game is going to make a lot of people smile (not JJP's competitors, though).
So Jon, any idea when yours will arrive yet? Is late Feb/early March looking likely?
Quite surprised it's economically viable to ship a single machine over to Phil, any idea who's one it is? Would be interesting to get their perspective on it.
Cheers
John
Quite surprised it's economically viable to ship a single machine over to Phil, any idea who's one it is? Would be interesting to get their perspective on it.
Cheers
John
It's coming over for the EAG show. I guess if Jack manages to sell just 1 more pin at the show it will have been worth it.
I haven't got a date. Jack has stated he expects customer games to be shipping by end of February. It's the first time he's been explicit about a date for customers so I guess sometime in Spring for me.
I'm not sure any pin is going to live up to 2 years of hype but it looks good so far
I haven't got a date. Jack has stated he expects customer games to be shipping by end of February. It's the first time he's been explicit about a date for customers so I guess sometime in Spring for me.
I'm not sure any pin is going to live up to 2 years of hype but it looks good so far
'However, this unfinished game eclipses every game made to date by others'
:rolleyez: OK - I mean I knew it wasn't gonna be an unbiased review but seriously .....It was at this point that the 'reviewer' lost all credibility. Utterly ridiculous statement. Jack needs to get a better writer for his fluff pieces
:rolleyez: OK - I mean I knew it wasn't gonna be an unbiased review but seriously .....It was at this point that the 'reviewer' lost all credibility. Utterly ridiculous statement. Jack needs to get a better writer for his fluff pieces
I stick to my June 7th, anyone else playing?
Closest to the target gets a mystery gift from me in the post.
Closest to the target gets a mystery gift from me in the post.
May 12th...
Man, I want a mystery gift from Dan in the post. The mind boggles at what it could be
So I'm playing for that reason. April 20th
So I'm playing for that reason. April 20th
August the 15th (Hollywood premiere date of 1939 movie), at 11:12am (dates of the previews). The weather will be slightly rainy until the delivery van arrived, then the sun will burst through the clouds to form a rainbow.