We need Neil back to calm the waters.
Think it's out of dateWell I didn't just go on pinball owners, to check which Pins are on your maybe list... Honestly
Description on Pinball Owners should include accurate details of.......Think it's out of date
I'm sure rentals have their place but at nearly £1000 (including delivery) for 6 months I'd rather take my chances with depreciation.If the gap between nib and used continues to increase I could see rentals becoming even more popular if recent titles are quickly available. Renter knows exactly how much a game will cost them over x months and don’t have to worry about not being able to move it on, can just try a game for a few months and then return it. Anything major goes wrong it’s not your issue/ cost. People may be less picky about condition as long as everything is working as you don’t have to worry about resale value. Wouldn’t need £8000+ saved up to get a machine in your house. Transport arranging/ added cost might be an issue though.
I guess it’s just whether it’s a good enough profit for someone to start doing as a business or whether it’s not worth the hassle.
Agree but I’d be interested in a 3 month option for a few games, the delivery 2 ways might add too much thoughI'm sure rentals have their place but at nearly £1000 (including delivery) for 6 months I'd rather take my chances with depreciation.
If you've the cash for a new game. A good way for someone to have a game without the huge outlay.I'm sure rentals have their place but at nearly £1000 (including delivery) for 6 months I'd rather take my chances with depreciation.
Pfft, that's nothing. If I buy a Venom Pro I'll be paying 32% more than I payed for my Stranger Things 2 years ago.Just seen the below comment on Pinside, crazy...
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Last game released pre-COVID was Stranger Things in December 2019. Pricing was:
Pro Model: $US 6,099
Premium Model: $US 7,699
Limited Edition Model: $US 9,099
Current Pricing in 2023:
Pro Model: $US 6,999
Premium Model: $US 9,699
Limited Edition Model: $US 12,999
Price Increase (%):
Pro: 14.8
Premium: 26
LE: 42.9
Bloody hellPfft, that's nothing. If I buy a Venom Pro I'll be paying 32% more than I payed for my Stranger Things 2 years ago.
My wage definitely hasn't gone up 32% in the last 2 years!
Great, added to the tonight's watch list.Cary is pretty much talking about pricing in this video
Need to tell those US guys to stop moaning. They have cheap new LE's over there at $US 13K, $US 20K for usCary is pretty much talking about pricing in this video
For most people I’d say they are only ‘worth’ it if in your head you think you can resell if needed at minimal / no loss . That’s been the assumption for years now. Right now that model is looking very shaky.But is it worth 32% more?
Very interesting if distributors have paid in full for all the stock that’s not moving then this will certainly have a knock on effect to the next game they will only have so much liquidity
Couldn’t agree more. If stern do bttf and do it well people will soak up another price increase to get a dream theme like that . Nib prices aren’t coming down unfortunatelyIf you look back on the internet archives, you can see that pinball prices have steadily increased over the years, as have cars, houses, luxury watches etc etc.
NIB prices may have run ahead slightly of affordability just now due to the current cash squeeze, but wages and mentality will catch up and prices will then continue to rise steadily.
You just need to get your heads around it.
The alternative is budget games with even lower bom than a pro
I think electrocoin have to take a min order of everythingI got the impression Phil said that was only for the LEs, is it for all versions?
You'll have a minority that will always pay whatever the price is - the ones who always buy LE regardless, then those below that where prices have become uncomfortably high and have stopped buying NIB. I haven't bought NIB for 2 years but may be tempted this year.I’m not so convinced people will just pay regardless.
There’s a tipping point for everyone.
I like Godzilla and the one that came up yesterday was significantly cheaper than a NIB but still way more than I would consider paying for a game.
Everyone draws a line in the sand somewhere.
No sales of Pro or Premium? Interesting. I fancy one but like you there's no point ordering one at the moment. I'll wait to see how things play out over the next few months.I am on the fence with venom I suspect with no sales of either the pro or premium so far at ph I would suspect there will be plenty of stock at electrocoin so I may as well just wait
How is that occurring? Is it exchange rate difference between buying now versus when electrocoin imported them, or something else?With the current UK pricing it's also just cheaper to import from the states - I reckon you'd save around 2k...
When you have one organisation with no competition setting rates for games being sold in the UK you end up with this exact situation.How is that occurring? Is it exchange rate difference between buying now versus when electrocoin imported them, or something else?