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Great British Pinball Podcast

I WFH and always like to have something on in the background so the longer the better.

In addition to JD I wish there had been a Rogue Trooper pin. My favourite character by far and I loved Dave Gibbons artwork. There's an animated Rogue Trooper film in production now but I doubt it will big enough for anyone to develop a pin.
 
I can't find the FB group Neil mentioned with updates and video of the new PBR location, just the old one last updated in 2022. Anyone have a link please?
 
For once Neil is right 😏 unfortunately you will and nearly always have, lost money if buying NITB. There where some exceptions .Pinball machines are like new cars 15-30 loss. The problem now is the new price is so ridiculously high. There is a massive difference loosing 30 percent on £5k than 12k.
I looked very briefly buying a LOTR around 2004 Ish I think from memory it was £5k new and instantly went no way, can't afford to loose the depreciation. My circumstances was very different then. Whilst I only bought my first machine at the start of COVID and had nothing to do with being at home, my gran passed away left me a little bit, I always wanted one, the wife went go for it, so bought one, rather than the cash going on bills garden furniture 🤣. I have been toying with buying one since 2002/3 (had a different wife then) coming close a couple of times. I knew COVID was a bubble what I wasn't sure with the cost of NiTB increasing by £5k what the second hand market would do. It's partly why I got rid of my games quickly, Mando premium I sold for just under £9k ISH, id be lucky to get £7k now. I fully expect to loose money on avengers however it's a game I really like and expect to keep for some time.
I can't see the pinball manufacturers surviving if they continue as they currently are, whilst the demand is there capital and spare cash for most to buy isn't. It's really now a home market, you make very little putting one in a bar arcade. People who do, do it for the love or as a value add. Your much better sticking 6 claw machines in😞
If you decide to buy a new game, just think of the loss as a average holiday, or a few meals out in a redcolously priced restaurant or perhaps a massive bender in a naked lady club 🤭. If you had fun treat the sale like a bad hangover the next day or ##### how much did I spend, you will get over it quickly. However if you wake up and go, ### I have to sell my car, house, I can't afford to eat like the don't do it, it only a giant man toy, go visit pinball republic instead.
 
My take is different on the subject.
I cannot afford to loose 2-3K … or 3-4K on EHOH.

I used to have £1400 per month disposable income when I had a 1.94% mortgage rate and a wife to split the bills with. Now I have practically £0 left after mortgage went up to 5.84%..

If interest rates were to come down to 3-3.5% I would have £600+ each month disposable income…


More ££ to spend = increased demand
 
Dave Bishop said:
My take is different on the subject.
I cannot afford to loose 2-3K … or 3-4K on EHOH.

I used to have £1400 per month disposable income when I had a 1.94% mortgage rate and a wife to split the bills with. Now I have practically £0 left after mortgage went up to 5.84%..

If interest rates were to come down to 3-3.5% I would have £600+ each month disposable income…


More ££ to spend = increased demand
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That's true, inflation and the cost of living means less for everyone. My point was people are seeing pinball machines as investments and complaining there loosing money when they go to sell after buying a new in the box. That's always been the case except for the COVID bubble. It's just the amount you loose now is greater than previously due to the high costs. The norm and the acceptance should be money gone in the bin when you go to sell, so need to think about the loss in a different way. 💲💲💲💲💩💀🙄
 
The cost of NIB has being going up and up. Hopefully with the stronger pound there will be a correction. Example Cactus Canyon LE I’m sure was 8.5k or 9k when it was first advertised. I didn’t buy one but I’m assuming the original price wasn’t honoured by the time these were made and imported to the uk. What was the final cost of them..
 
Kenny Taylor said:
The cost of NIB has being going up and up. Hopefully with the stronger pound there will be a correction. Example Cactus Canyon LE I’m sure was 8.5k or 9k when it was first advertised. I didn’t buy one but I’m assuming the original price wasn’t honoured by the time these were made and imported to the uk. What was the final cost of them..
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It was 9750

I bought and sold mine for this number. I find it odd people have been selling north of that but I believe the price went higher for those that didn't pre-order?
 
Dave Bishop said:
It’s more the cost to loose lose £3K on a game and then go and put another 3-4K in to get a new game. 1-2K.. but 3-4… nah
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Well that's always been the case for every NITB game just the amount now is nuts, every new game 3+3+3 loss
 
Not quite. LE’s used to hold value, but with Stern’s recent policy change, there is no point in buying a LE.

They are not worth the £4K increase of a premium now. EHOH has 5 different variations now..
Jurassic Park - 4
GZ - 4

And soon Bond, Jaws.. people will just wait

Premium all the way now, if I buy another Stern that is
 
Dave Bishop said:
Not quite. LE’s used to hold value, but with Stern’s recent policy change, there is no point in buying a LE.

They are not worth the £4K increase of a premium now. EHOH has 5 different variations now..
Jurassic Park - 4
GZ - 4

And soon Bond, Jaws.. people will just wait

Premium all the way now, if I buy another Stern that is
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True, but what is the actual difference nothing really a plaque, different art and some powder coating, I personally don't think any ever where worth the money, especially now Now that's not to say I'm not partial to a one of 500 plaque, I am, but if I'm honest with myself there really never been a reason to get an LE pinball, except maybe transformers or Tron which I think had an extra mechs
 
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