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Very Irritating noise from my Getaway

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Andy I think you'll need to sort this purely because I can't see it being a coincidence that the same fault has happened....
 
Durzel said:
@biglouieuk did the fuses start blowing straight after you’d changed them to the correct rating?
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Nope, it ran properly for a few weeks, it was clearly something to do with me dicking about with the ribbon cable as you guys have suggested. Fuses are both in there, at 3amp as before and not blowing since I pressed the connections home in each ribbon board connector as suggested by you gents.
 
Trying to understand the chronology of it..

You started playing with the ribbon cables because of that repeating sound? I’m not technical so I don’t know where the replacement chips fit into this (i.e. why they were changed too)
 
Durzel said:
Trying to understand the chronology of it..

You started playing with the ribbon cables because of that repeating sound? I’m not technical so I don’t know where the replacement chips fit into this (i.e. why they were changed too)
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Set the game to free play on arrival.

The game played fine as far as I could tell, but it kept playing this irritating sound over and over, then intermittent. Because I don't know the game that well, I actually thought it part of the game, but annoying..., until I played another Getaway and realised mine was off.

I changed fuses 5 or 6 days after I got the machine, they arrived from Pinball Mania. Just because they were wrong, nothing to do with sound investigation.

I started to trouble shoot the irritating noise and thought the cpu at u13 might be a cause, I was shotgunning the problem, as I didn't have a reasonable test to give me any direction.

I read about the ribbon cable, it looked new, so thought that could be a problem in some way loose or such.. Pulled that, cleaned the pins on all the boards with a cotton bud and a bit of rubbing alcohol and reseated the ribbon, pulled the chip at same time (as it gave me better access) and replaced with (wrong) spare..(Learning, do one thing at a time for testing)

2x fuse blow on start up, replace. Blow again.

Took ribbon off again and triple checked it was correct and pushed home, from advice here..

Took out J107. Restart. No fuses blow.

Restarted with J107 and coin door open. No fuses blow. Closed door, no fuses blow.

Cable reseat probably was the fuse issue as suspected here.

Realised still no sound. Chip is wrong one.

Dropped some coins through the coin slot, see a switch on matrix for coin staying on after drop. But no sound to check if it's playing irritating sound coz that switch is stuck

Current situation.

Have correct chip on order, I want to trouble shoot this and see if we can clear the irritating noise, before the pinsound goes in.

I need to do one thing at a time, so I can isolate. Is my learning.

Once I get the chip, I'll get sound and we can get back at the irritating sound problem

Fuses were a diversion to irritating sound, caused by ribbon cable, I guess.

Well that was a mouth full!
 
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biglouieuk said:
I need to do one thing at a time, so I can isolate. Is my learning.
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Aye to that! But it looks like all is on the right course now!


Though about who provided the pin...

As I alluded to before... there's a reason that people ask questions when there's a lack of detail. A lack of detail suits certain kinds of people that don't like the details to be known, because it reflects badly on them for some reason. Over-defensiveness on reasonable questions is a big warning sign of it.

And to my absolute complete lack of surprise, we're seeing a 'restoration' that has a loose coin mech, a flaky switch causing a coin noise, and an array of incorrect fuses. Hell of a 'restoration' there Andy...
 
Well I see the "Knives" are well and truly out for me. It pure fluke that I logged into this account whist away as I had a list of notifications in my mailbox. I will respond now before going out for the evening. So it not seems that there is a loose / faulty cable on the coin door of the HS 2 iI suppose it is not beyond chance that whilst being transported something has got loose? Nah that never happens does it? VERY strange Nhow the Buyer (a self confessed "fiddler") now claims ALL the fuses in this machine were wrong! Really??? How many of you have heard of a 5/8 amp fuse?? that would be approx 550ma and I do not know of a Manufacturer of such fuses! As for them all being wrong That is utter rubbish Fuses are put in place to be the WEAKEST LINK in a circuit and since I qualified as an Electronics design Engineer in 1975, I have never, not even once, put a higher value fuse in a circuit because it just means a moire expensive component will faiul! Big Louie Why are you telling such lies? Clearly you lot have Tried & Convicted me. But consider these facts..... 1) Why has the Buyer not contacted me since the sale to mention any of this? 2) Explain how it is several weeks since the sale and not a single contact (apart from the initial 3 days)? 3) Is it really beyond the realms of possibility that ANOTHER fault has occurred with a loose wire or by the buyer fiddling around? All the important ICs in the game were on new DIL sockets How is it he has not only bent broken pins but also puts the WRONG IC in it?? My fault again I suppose! I return to the UK on 6th Jan Big Louie you haver all my contact details are you MAN enough to contact me and accuse me of these things to my face? Maybe we should make this legal??
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3/8th typo. Sorry! It's all good Andy, I'm sure it's just a loose connection or some such caused by the move.

I'll keep trucking through and let you know how I get on.

Have a lovely holiday.
 
Original version of my post was less than polite, so I've scrubbed it.

Suffice to say that I don't truly believe Andy is replying in good faith - because the alternative is that he truly lacks any self-awareness to see how he's coming across. At the very least he's always far quicker to excuse himself and to cherry pick on small details while ignoring any implications that a normal person would - reading posts in enough detail to post sentences about clear typos while ignoring more important issues.

Or... in his own mind he's an untouchable king with an unquestionable pedigree. Whereas in reality the person with the grievance has been far more honest and forthcoming about providing information and pictures/videos without taking it as a personal insult that his posts online in a new forum are anonymous and actually require a bit of proof to be distinguished from just loads of hot air.

I don't really believe that he's so dumb as to completely fail to understand this.

We've seen it all before to be honest. Many, many times. It's just not that special of a case, sadly. So let's just keep an eye on this thread to ensure we can get this game all happy again...
 
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New speakers is a must with PinSound in case you don't know, either get their speaker set or make one up yourself but the original speakers will sound crap compared.
Get drunk tonight and order some speakers if you haven’t🍻 Spoilt for choice with mixes for this machine.
 
M4carp said:
New speakers is a must with PinSound in case you don't know, either get their speaker set or make one up yourself but the original speakers will sound crap compared.
Get drunk tonight and order some speakers if you haven’t🍻 Spoilt for choice with mixes for this machine.
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I read a post of yours discussing pinsound before purchase, so I had an extra beer before ordering and bought the lot. 🙂 Consider yourself an "enabler" haha
 
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Durzel said:
PinSound is an extreme reaction to a sound board problem (or maybe not even that) but I like your style :D
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It was less of a reaction to the irritating sound situation and more of a reaction to seeing a sound rework for Getaway that had the Prodigy in it! But we need to sort the sound situ first..and the targets need fixing too..
 

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It was less of a reaction to the irritating sound situation and more of a reaction to seeing a sound rework for Getaway that had the Prodigy in it! But we need to sort the sound situ first..and the targets need fixing too..
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What the actual fcuk, how much did you pay for this game btw?
 
Is it better to just replace the targets? I've bought the pads, have them here, and easy enough to straighten the back metal. Ball hits the glass alot at the mo. The switches can be pulled into shape with needle nose pliers right? They don't light in the test currently, so obv not touching on start which is cool and I don't want to tinker (I want to tinker) My nerdy OCD is a killer..

Maybe better to replace each target at 15 euro each and be done with it?

How much I paid for this?....not important, had no reference. So I get what my knowledge deserves. What I do know, after owning a pinball machine for a bit, I'll be owning many many more 👍 these things are brilliant. My 2 lads stopped playing Xbox to play pinball, they now understand their physics lessons because of the last month or so..."Oh normally open switch means that!"

these machines need to be found and looked after.. I'm utterly hooked.

Wife prefers them to the arcade machines too! Double win! 2020 will be the year of pinball in my house.. and f&&ked bank balance..
 
I would just replace the whole target and switch mate... Never know what Andy has been doing to it and you shouldn't find anything like that from somebody whose done "award winning restorations"
 
ronsplooter said:
That target is on your "fully restored" game?

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To be fair to Andy, he sorted a huge amount of electrical issues, on a £280 quid machine, stuff I wouldn't have ever been able to get near.. there are things that one might expect that are no where near as mint (sorry Andy) as the description (I've enthusiastically built a few arcade machines recently), but electrical his thing and the other stuff is mine perhaps.

Let's drop all that now, get these other bits (which are more in my wheel house) sorted..

I may or may not have paid over the odds, but I like fixing stuff up and let's not forget there is a new cpu board, chips, DMD and decals that cost him a few quid.

I appreciate everyone's support and the frustration, but I don't want to be a moaning mini and cause a load of upset in the forum.

I'm just happy to be a Williams pinball machine owner and to start to learn about it all..

The question I'm asking after visiting Croydon is, where do I find an AC/DC 🙂 and how do I sell that to my mrs

Happy New Year and look forward to getting to know you lot better

Rob
 
biglouieuk said:
To be fair to Andy, he sorted a huge amount of electrical issues, on a £280 quid machine, stuff I wouldn't have ever been able to get near.. there are things that one might expect that are no where near as mint (sorry Andy) as the description (I've enthusiastically built a few arcade machines recently), but electrical his thing and the other stuff is mine perhaps.

Let's drop all that now, get these other bits (which are more in my wheel house) sorted..

I may or may not have paid over the odds, but I like fixing stuff up and let's not forget there is a new cpu board, chips, DMD and decals that cost him a few quid.

I appreciate everyone's support and the frustration, but I don't want to be a moaning mini and cause a load of upset in the forum.

I'm just happy to be a Williams pinball machine owner and to start to learn about it all..

The question I'm asking after visiting Croydon is, where do I find an AC/DC 🙂 and how do I sell that to my mrs

Happy New Year and look forward to getting to know you lot better

Rob
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It's always better to ask for forgiveness than permission, get the AC/DC and act surprised when it shows up.... That's what I've always done 😂
 
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