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Lack of machines for sale

TAF is massively overrated. It was a horrible game when new but impressive to watch with its magnets. I bought one hoping to be converted by playing it on free play and just hated it.

I can't see the youth of today being swayed by big screens. They love the screens but have no interest in the archaic pinball bit below.
 
AlanJ said:
Lets talk in 5 years time and see how many of the recent sterns are still holding up as well as TAF and MM.

Some things are classics - like an E type Jag - a modern jag will trounce it, but...............
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Batman 66, Deadpool, MetalLuca, Iron Man, IMDN

a modern jag breaks down just as much as an E type 😂
 
Simple can be good. When we used to have people over (especially kids) they loved WCS, AFM, MM as it’s obvious what to do.

Compare that to say deadpool. I suspect DP is a great game but I have zero idea what I am meant to be doing on it.
 
johnwhitfield said:
. I suspect DP is a great game but I have zero idea what I am meant to be doing on it.
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This is for me the failing of most pinball machines. You would think that after 30 or 40yrs they would know how to make games approachable to the general public.
 
Rob zombie said:
TAF is massively overrated. It was a horrible game when new but impressive to watch with its magnets. I bought one hoping to be converted by playing it on free play and just hated it.

I can't see the youth of today being swayed by big screens. They love the screens but have no interest in the archaic pinball bit below.
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From observation of my little guys (aged one and five), they like colourful pins that *do* stuff and where the objectives are simple.

My Flipper Beast (aged five) likes MM because he understands that you shoot the castle. He also likes Cirqus Voltaire because you shoot the evil ringmaster and his initial interest in our LoTR was driven by the Balrog. His interest in LoTR is now driven largely by the multiballs, which give a sense of excitement and progress to the gameplay. He’s a smart little guy and, after a couple of months, has some grasp of how to trigger them. Bigger screens are mainly of interest to the little boys because they make the game more interesting for ‘spectators’.

The Flipper Beast is definitely affected by themes, mostly castles and monsters. He likes JP2 because of the dinosaurs, GZ because of monsters destroying cities, MM because of the castle, and BK2000 because he is ‘battling a black knight’. Although he really enjoyed our FT when it arrived, he’s lost interest to some extent - possibly due to theme and also because it’s a very skill-driven game about achieving high scores.

Our Pi-Bo Wizard (aged one) likes gameplay videos of JP2 because of the T-Rex, but was really scared and bored by the T-Rex on the LCD screen in real life. He did, however, like GZ - probably due to a combination of the bright Zombie Yeti graphics and the colourful LCD screen. He’s also a huge fan of watching videos of TMNT and assume he would enjoy spectating the pin in real life - again, it seems to be down to the colourful playfield/backbox and lively graphics. He, also, turns up for multi-balls.

Their ‘perfect’ pin, therefore, would probably have colourful Zombie Yeti graphics, a very obvious bash toy, an easy-to-understand family-friendly theme and LOADS of dramatic multi-balls. This maybe why GZ has been so well received/rated.

I know this isn’t representative of everyone, as they are both VERY little, but it gives a bit of a flavour...
 
VeeMonroe said:
From observation of my little guys (aged one and five), they like colourful pins that *do* stuff and where the objectives are simple.

My Flipper Beast (aged five) likes MM because he understands that you shoot the castle. He also likes Cirqus Voltaire because you shoot the evil ringmaster and his initial interest in our LoTR was driven by the Balrog. His interest in LoTR is now driven largely by the multiballs, which give a sense of excitement and progress to the gameplay. He’s a smart little guy and, after a couple of months, has some grasp of how to trigger them. Bigger screens are mainly of interest to the little boys because they make the game more interesting for ‘spectators’.

The Flipper Beast is definitely affected by themes, mostly castles and monsters. He likes JP2 because of the dinosaurs, GZ because of monsters destroying cities, MM because of the castle, and BK2000 because he is ‘battling a black knight’. Although he really enjoyed our FT when it arrived, he’s lost interest to some extent - possibly due to theme and also because it’s a very skill-driven game about achieving high scores.

Our Pi-Bo Wizard (aged one) likes gameplay videos of JP2 because of the T-Rex, but was really scared and bored by the T-Rex on the LCD screen in real life. He did, however, like GZ - probably due to a combination of the bright Zombie Yeti graphics and the colourful LCD screen. He’s also a huge fan of watching videos of TMNT and assume he would enjoy spectating the pin in real life - again, it seems to be down to the colourful playfield/backbox and lively graphics. He, also, turns up for multi-balls.

I know this isn’t representative of everyone, as they are both VERY little, but it gives a bit of a flavour...
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I bought RFM and TSPP for the kids and they played them probably about 4 times. They just weren't interested in anything non-Minecraft, non-Farming Simulator, non-Lego. They like building things. This is not something that any pinball machine has yet done.
 
Rob zombie said:
I bought RFM and TSPP for the kids and they played them probably about 4 times. They just weren't interested in anything non-Minecraft, non-Farming Simulator, non-Lego. They like building things. This is not something that any pinball machine has yet done.
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The Flipper Beast also loves Lego. He likes hleping* us fixing/modding the pins - he’s probably more interested in that than playing them TBH.

[*Hlep = ‘help’ provided by a five year old].
 
VeeMonroe said:
The Flipper Beast also loves Lego. He likes hleping* us fixing/modding the pins - he’s probably more interested in that than playing them TBH.

[*Hlep = ‘help’ provided by a five year old].
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My 6yr old was demanding I buy him the new Godzilla pinball machine for Christmas because he's currently obsessed with Godzilla and it was one of the things he'd managed to Google. He also wanted Godzilla PS4 which is super rare and goes for around £300. Oh and some Japanese vintage toy that goes for £2500. But it's ok apparently because Santa makes them, he doesn't pay for them.
 
Anyhow, back to the thread point. Anyone selling owt?

Edit; two just gone up for sale here, and a BOP earlier. :)
 
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Dex-Jay said:
You can't argue with that! On the back of many a pinball you won't see Stern as manufacturer, you'll see Santa's Workshop, Northpole.
FACTS.
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This could be an ingenious way of getting them past the wife. I have 12 months to get her to believe....
 
Rob zombie said:
My 6yr old was demanding I buy him the new Godzilla pinball machine for Christmas because he's currently obsessed with Godzilla and it was one of the things he'd managed to Google. He also wanted Godzilla PS4 which is super rare and goes for around £300. Oh and some Japanese vintage toy that goes for £2500. But it's ok apparently because Santa makes them, he doesn't pay for them.
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Apparently, we are going to have JP2 Prem in one alcove in our front room and GZ Prem in the other…

I’ve pointed out to our Flipper Beast (age 5) that we don’t have infinite money, or space, and thus the ‘JP2/GZ’ plan is news to me.
 
Rob zombie said:
My 6yr old was demanding I buy him the new Godzilla pinball machine for Christmas because he's currently obsessed with Godzilla and it was one of the things he'd managed to Google. He also wanted Godzilla PS4 which is super rare and goes for around £300. Oh and some Japanese vintage toy that goes for £2500. But it's ok apparently because Santa makes them, he doesn't pay for them.
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My 7 year old is the same, demanding he wanted a Mando pin but was happy with a £20 Baby Yoda from Asda lol
 
jagman said:
luckily my jags been fine :thumbs:
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Wife’s cousin down the road has a modern super charged Jag and not had any problems.
Her dad used to have Jags in the 80’s/90’s and don’t remember any problems either.
We have Toyota’s, only problem is having to refuel or if you have one with the BMW engine which we don’t 😂
 
Jags are definitely way up there at the top of my don't buy list, along with Land Rover, Range Rover. No thanks. Same goes for anything British made apart from Caterham and Morgan.
 
I've never even heard of an NPS but you'd have to have your head up your ass not to know how badly Jaguar Land Rover Group score for customer satisfaction (bottom) year on year....for the last 20 or 30 years.
 
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