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Energy prices - gone nuts.

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thelab said:
Am seeing some advice to take a meter reading and submit it on the 31st March before the new pricing to get a more accurate bill when it comes..I guess that's so they don't apply any increases to the usage before the 1st April.
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I intend to over declare my usage / meter readings on 30th March to effectively pre-pay before the prices shoot up.
 
thelab said:
Am seeing some advice to take a meter reading and submit it on the 31st March before the new pricing to get a more accurate bill when it comes..I guess that's so they don't apply any increases to the usage before the 1st April.
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Yes exactly. You want as much as possible billed at the current rate
 
Calimori said:
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Extending my generated power into the evening.
Plus, trying to change my tariff to the Tesla one.
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How does this work out cost wise - buying the panels and the battery? I had a look a while back and got the impression that even with a battery it'd possibly only reduce my bill by 50%, which at the time made it, along with the hassle, seem a bit uneconomical, but I guess with electricity prices having risen so much it might be worthwhile looking again. I'm on oil fired heating, and our cars are petrol, but we still use just over 10,000 kWh p.a.
 
Fantazia2 said:
Pretty much yes and yes, its just getting the balance right between paying more for a bigger battery vs the extra you would spend overnight, also a bigger battery may never get full during the winter months depending on daytime usage and how much you get out of the solar, ideally you would want to calculate how much your cookers would use, i.e. using a 2KW oven for an hour would use 2KWh or less or power, as it tends to use less to maintain temp when up to temp, same with Hob, not sure on Air fryer as never used one.

Possibly one of the things to be aware of for the sellers Guarantee is it appears to be KWh produced over the year, so you might easily meet that but a larger percentage is during the summer months, and possibly fed back into the grid.

Im sure there must be some experts who can work everything out and get a close calculation, not sure i trust every seller, I know there was a lot of talk about something similar to PPI mis-selling for solar a while back, but that was for early systems.

I built my own system over the last year but only just got the battery usable as where I installed them on my garage room its a bad spot for winter as its behind a line of houses that block direct sunlight for most of the day but the solar is starting to produce more per day now.

Ive got a 3KW solar inverter with 3.4KW of solar panels connected to it in 2 banks of 1.7KW , but one of the banks is north facing so not the best to generate but you still get a decent amount of power on a bright day from it. Ive also got a smaller system I started with on my Shed room with 1.2KW but they are laid flat so not as efficient.

The Shed system cost me about £900 but it was built using smaller panels and inverters and I wasnt aware that the bigger stuff was cheaper per KWH to buy and wanted to tes the waters first.
The Garage system cost about £1700 and about £900 for the battery storage system which I setup with a used storage inverter and using cheap Lead Acid batteries but that only holds about 2KWh at the moment, I can get a bit more out of it by putting things on during the day to pull power from the battery and then let the solar top it up again. There is issues with using Lead Acid Batterys but I just started with them as they were cheap and wasnt sure how well the system would work, the plan was to upgrade to Lithium later on once the LeadAcid ones have had their day.

Even with those 2 combined some dark days over winter I didnt even produce .5KWh per day, now that the days are longer and brighter Im starting to produce more each day, averaging about 7KWh this week and with the battery and Solar diverter for the Immersion heater I only export about 0.5KWh a day but being a DIY system Im not eligable for any feed in payments, but should have free hot water for most of the summer.
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Yeah I think if we can make use of the power in the day and cut down in power suckers in the evening it could work out well, our background energy is quite low it’s just mostly the kitchen appliances which really suck it.

I’m not sure how long a 4.8kw battery would last at night tbh.

It’s temping but 13k is a big chunk of change but with stupid energy prices that probably won’t ever fall again it might be worth it? Don’t want to look back in 5 years going wish I’d just spent that 13k and never need to care about electric bill again.
 
AlanJ said:
now is the time for all you ****ers who swear by incandescent bulbs to see the light and go LED 😂😂👍👍👍
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Never! They have no place in an older pinballs!! and I’ll pay the extra 50p n hour to have bulbs lol :D
 
JT. said:
How does this work out cost wise - buying the panels and the battery? I had a look a while back and got the impression that even with a battery it'd possibly only reduce my bill by 50%, which at the time made it, along with the hassle, seem a bit uneconomical, but I guess with electricity prices having risen so much it might be worthwhile looking again. I'm on oil fired heating, and our cars are petrol, but we still use just over 10,000 kWh p.a.
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If I generate 4000kW I can probably only use 2500kW in real time. Because I need more at that point, kettle, washing machine etc.
or because nothing is using what is generated. We are out for example.
This will harvest that and store it maximising on my saving.

Plus, Tesla/Octopus have a tariff where they take over your battery and use it to distribute excess and demand. Then you pay 11p to import and get 11p to export.
 
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Roasts are expensive jeez lol

x2 hobs
x1 oven

I might of had a few pins on as well :D

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Was roast chicken and pork (chicken for me as chicken mad lol)

Yeah will stick to microwave roasts now :D
 
one of my rules is nothing from the sea, if it comes from the sea or any water I won’t eat it :D
 
" with stupid energy prices that probably won’t ever fall again"

nah, gas just dumped 30% in a couple of days.

I thought commodities going parabolic is the sign of an impending market collapse/end of cycle so it will all come back down again sooner or later.

The more "renewables" the less demand for fossil fuel's which id assume leads to over supply and lower prices.



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So out of interest - (those without Solar etc) - how much in KWH are people using a day? Thinking along the lines of a 3/4 bed semi/Detached....
 
4 bed detached, 2 people (both working full time offsite), estimated annual usage is 16.6kwh per day.

Just watched a few you tube vids to get back up to speed on current state of affairs with installs.

Am thinking better to just work a few extra weekends each year, earn what id save with solar and not have all the hassle and constant OCD over it like the people on these vids.
Its like their energy consumption and monitoring their systems has over taken their life.

EDIT: or to think of it another way, whats the the opportunity cost of a 10 year ROI in a solar install. lets say £13k investment. 10 years to achieve break even.
OR.. take £13k buy bitcoin, sit on it for 10 years. how much did you save after 10 years?
 
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paulg100 said:
Am thinking better to just work a few extra weekends each year, earn what id save with solar and not have all the hassle and constant OCD over it like the people on these vids.
Its like their energy consumption and monitoring their systems has over taken their life.
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1) If you can earn the increase being predicted by working a few extra weekends then hats off to you.
2) I think a little bit of focus on energy use would do our country and the world a lot of good. Cheepish costs have driven over consumption and ditching that could reduce more drastic requirements.
3) Let’s put a date in the diary to revisit that debate and see who came out on top.
 
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