Jib
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On the flip side there’s the possibility that you wait for a NIB, because you refuse to pay £7500 for a used machine and by the time a NIB becomes available it’s £1000 more than you would have paid for the used one!
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The price of pinball in 2022
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I just view pinballs as a temporary investment. If you can pull together (or loan) the £5k or so needed to buy one, it's as good as money in the bank.
Need £5k back in 12 months time? Just list the game on here and it will be sold in minutes!
Need £5k back in 12 months time? Just list the game on here and it will be sold in minutes!
NIB Prices are going to rise again soon I fear
When I got my NIB AIQ it had a bunch of issues out of the box. The small one-way gate below the tower was installed the wrong way round, the right orbit rattled like mad, the coil stops fall apart, the flippers faded after 30mins, etc.
Since then I've spent hours dialing it in and over £1200 on powdercoat, art blades, fans, speakers, plastics, yadda yadda. In my mind it's way better than new. The warranty sure is nice for peace of mind but it's not worth £1000 imho.
If you wanted to get the same package NIB it would set you back 8.5-9 grand. In that respect 7.5k seems like a good deal even if you happen to be very unlucky and have to spend another $300 on a replacement node board...
And that's before considering that you can't even get a delivery timeframe for that new machine
Since then I've spent hours dialing it in and over £1200 on powdercoat, art blades, fans, speakers, plastics, yadda yadda. In my mind it's way better than new. The warranty sure is nice for peace of mind but it's not worth £1000 imho.
If you wanted to get the same package NIB it would set you back 8.5-9 grand. In that respect 7.5k seems like a good deal even if you happen to be very unlucky and have to spend another $300 on a replacement node board...
And that's before considering that you can't even get a delivery timeframe for that new machine
And don’t forget you’ve got to get fully back what it owes you. So add your Martin the delivery man fee on. Heaven forbid you had to stump up the cost of delivery for your own machine. Nah… some other **** can wear that!
When did it become commonplace for people to treat a machine as an investment?
Why do people think that by adding non-essential personalisation to a machine it increases the price and that the next buyer should foot the bill?
Is it because some people view it as a status symbol to have the latest machine - that they have to have it NOW, that they feel entitled to have it just because they want it.
By all means if you want to splash the cash to get it, great, but don't be surprised when others don't value your machine the same.
There are far better prices away from eBay, FB and here if you actually network and get to know people.
Although reading some of the comments on here it appears that because one person paid X amount for a specific pin - their version of that same pin is worth £500 more because It's been powder coated/ has new speakers/ doesn't have skill posts / is HUO / hasn't had children with their sticky fingers near / has been 'Feng Shui'd' and surrounded by crystals/ etc. etc.
How many of these people are bringing them to shows - most likely time you first played a machine in real life - or do they prefer to polish and admire the plastic toys they've added and newly fitted military grade LEDs twinkling away in their front room?
When I sell my car I 100% add on the price of the 2 side light bulbs I added! and my time fitting them!
To mod or not to mod, that is another debate. Fact is a modded machine sells for more, all other aspects being equal. Does that mean mods increase a pin's value by their cost? No and that's not what I said in my previous post either.
And I never said it increases by their cost either. At least we agree on that much.
Jib
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I add the mods I want, if it makes me enjoy having the game more that's why I'm getting them. After adding flipper fans to my 2 machines I'll probably always get those for new machines now. If I don't get my money back on them then so be it, I've enjoyed the machine in the best way I could. Some mods can be transferred to your next machine too if you don't want to include them in a sale, shaker, glass, fans etc
In my head I honestly had my very nice Tommy at 3500 in today’s market.
I have no clue anymore
I just paid 3650 for a v nice example with some maintainance to blinders needed, so i would have to agree.
However if you've got a panicked buyers market then name your price and you'll likely get a bite. It's all fair game, just depends how patient/desperate you are.
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I've had two responses to my Tommy wanted ad, and they're both after considerably more than that with Craig's going for 5k.
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still haven't heard what the death point score is!??!?!!!!
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they are nuts. Craig's price is toppy no doubt but in a market were nothing is for sale then you can understand why but the game itself is a £2500 game no question about it.
Neil.
Let's just be fair to the recent sales & offers you've had crewy, it's what people are prepared to let the game go for. What they're "worth" is a different matter and equally subjective in many cases, although you've got the advantage of group opinion.
I don't think there's any need to confuse or argue between the two.
It's a great game and there will be a range of prices that they go for. Its always been like this. Ebay you used to see TAFs go between 300 quid and 2000 inside a week.
I don't think there's any need to confuse or argue between the two.
It's a great game and there will be a range of prices that they go for. Its always been like this. Ebay you used to see TAFs go between 300 quid and 2000 inside a week.
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Yup, I'm personally more horrified by the prices of NIB tbh
I'm not complaining about the offers I've received at all, I asked for next refusal on Craig's which started the ball rolling.
Coinopking has a Tommy at £5995 its been on the site a while and still showing in stock.
Used to be a few k more to buy pins from these sites
Used to be a few k more to buy pins from these sites
Doggard
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Hld have a sale on at the mo, some real bargains to be had, especially for Star Wars fans !
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I think the range has been set for a Tommy now
£2500 is the most @Neil McRae would pay. But he wouldn’t as he doesn’t want one.
Or >£5000 if you are want to force a sale from someone who doesn’t really want to sell.
Roughly in the middle is @Sgt GrizZ with £3500, ever reasonable with his pricing but I am sure he has made us promise to bury him in Tommy. Dead bodies in pins must reduce their value a little. Maybe he is taking that into consideration with his price.
I have a Tommy. It isn’t as nice as @Sgt GrizZ so is worth less. But I don’t plan to be buried in mine so that might even it out. However, my kid likes playing it and it makes me smile. So I am not selling.
I hope that clears up Tommy prices for everyone. It is a valuable service we offer here.
£2500 is the most @Neil McRae would pay. But he wouldn’t as he doesn’t want one.
Or >£5000 if you are want to force a sale from someone who doesn’t really want to sell.
Roughly in the middle is @Sgt GrizZ with £3500, ever reasonable with his pricing but I am sure he has made us promise to bury him in Tommy. Dead bodies in pins must reduce their value a little. Maybe he is taking that into consideration with his price.
I have a Tommy. It isn’t as nice as @Sgt GrizZ so is worth less. But I don’t plan to be buried in mine so that might even it out. However, my kid likes playing it and it makes me smile. So I am not selling.
I hope that clears up Tommy prices for everyone. It is a valuable service we offer here.
That HLD sale is being strongly promoted on social media. It suggests to me that their sales have dropped off. Perhaps we've finally reached a turning point in this price surge.
I hope so.
I hope so.
So interestringly fruit machines have done a similar thing (over the last 2-3 years classics prices have gone through the roof). And currently prices are on a big decrease. I'm not saying pins will do the same (there is still the supply/demand issue out there), however is interesting to see the peaks and troughs, and understand the reasons...
I saw a lineup at 2.8k (bids) on eBay yesterday ahhh lol
Yeh - you get the same dreamers in that game as well
Run of the mill modern fruits are now cheaper and guess why.. because there are plenty available. Supply and demand
Ah found it, mental
Barcrest super line up vintage fruit machine | eBay
We have used it less n less so decided to let it go, as you see there is 10p tokens and the old 10p's that are included along with the keys for the front & back doors. i haven't counted the tokens or 10p's but i could if you need to know!
www.ebay.co.uk
For as long as I've known people have bought pins, arcades, cars, motorbikes... and if they need to free up some cash they sell it on. Don't think that's particularly controversial
Surely all pins were bought as investment for ops?
more seriously for us as machines shoot up in price the “investment” argument becomes stronger. If I lost 50% on my first pin I would have been £250 down.
If I now by a NIB there is absolutely no way I want to be 5k down
more seriously for us as machines shoot up in price the “investment” argument becomes stronger. If I lost 50% on my first pin I would have been £250 down.
If I now by a NIB there is absolutely no way I want to be 5k down