Remember the SUPREME Stern pinball - those skaterboys will pay sill money...... ha ha
Pinball info
Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
The OFFICIAL LICENSED 'moans about pricing' thread
- Thread starter VeeMonroe
- Start date
Didn’t Bond 60 ‘sell out’ like Rush LE and Wick LE? I was under the impression it was the distributors who got screwed on this one but I could be wrong.
Depends how you define 'sell out' I guess, I wouldn't call a game sold out if its available from distributors for a healthy discount.
Maybe Stern don't care, if they have passed on the loss, but I can't see distributors keen to sit on another $$$ game and customers who expected an investment, only to end up with the fastest depreciating games, even less so.
I guess another element to higher price LEs not moving is they just don’t feel special anymore.
Can blame Stern for that one.
Kinda like what Omega did with their plethora of limited and special edition watches.
Can blame Stern for that one.
Kinda like what Omega did with their plethora of limited and special edition watches.
What would you like us to put in your mouth?
I've got some lovely Christmas Baubles here.
"Blurrhhhh" , Rudy
Worst part about the present day is having to message people on Facebook regarding affordable pins and say in the most polite way possible, that's a lovely pin, I'll happily pay the going rate of £2000 under your asking price (which you probably bought it for in the last 18 months).
Sure way to get told **** you.
Sure way to get told **** you.
I think 3rd week Jan you’ll get more motivated sellers when the Xmas spend pinch kicks in the week before payday
What I don’t get is the lack of budget NIB from these new manufacturers.
There seems to be a number of new companies, but they are just pricing themselves at the same level as a Stern Pro and most don’t even have any licensed themes. I think this is the wrong way to go about it and these companies will no doubt come and go.
I thought the makers of Super Hoops were on the right track (despite the terrible game), with a more budget NIB.
There seems to be a number of new companies, but they are just pricing themselves at the same level as a Stern Pro and most don’t even have any licensed themes. I think this is the wrong way to go about it and these companies will no doubt come and go.
I thought the makers of Super Hoops were on the right track (despite the terrible game), with a more budget NIB.
This is a really interesting video on secondhand prices in the States over the last year.
In summary, prices are on average 10% down in a year. Now I know this is the States and not a direct comparison to here, but I would say this is a sign and when (if?) the market gets going again, I think we will see similar decreases, although maybe we already have.
In summary, prices are on average 10% down in a year. Now I know this is the States and not a direct comparison to here, but I would say this is a sign and when (if?) the market gets going again, I think we will see similar decreases, although maybe we already have.
A quick update on my previous posts keeping track of the market. So the total number of for sale adverts is now (Mar '25) up to 9 pages long, and seeing as I've got nothing better to do, I totted up the combined asking price: £600,000! And that's not including the ones that dealers are selling in there!A few do seem to be moving, but in terms of a metric: the number of open For Sale adverts on here last June ('23) was 4 full pages long. As of March this year ('24) it had just reached 6 pages and now (May '24) it's at 6.5 pages. My interpretation of that is that people are still overpricing versus the market, so be careful what you pay
I'd say we're down 10-20% already, atleast on the used market for machines older than 10 years.
Last edited:
It's fascinating, isn't it? In that time period, I've managed to trade one pin and sell another.
Everytime I list a pin, I keep expecting not to get anywhere selling due to the state of the market. It feels like people either aren't motivated to sell, or are no longer sure what pins are worth.
I have sold two games (The Mandalorian and Xenon) in the last 12 months. Lost a couple of hundred on The Mandalorian and wiped my face with Xenon.
I doubt anywhere near all of those For Sale posts are valid if they are over a few weeks old.
I doubt anywhere near all of those For Sale posts are valid if they are over a few weeks old.
I thought for sale posts expired? @Paul ?
After all the debates on being able to comment, the sales threads are exactly the same as any other thread so I am pretty sure setting them to time out to another status would affect all threads. @Paul will now tell me I am wrong. ;-)
Someone with moderator privs has to edit them or the owners could tidy them up for us.
But after three months, you can assume most are out of date.
Someone with moderator privs has to edit them or the owners could tidy them up for us.
But after three months, you can assume most are out of date.
Im on a moan - nothing much is selling on here. drop your pants folks, the world has changed. I was offered 8.5k for my lovely tz in 2020 - now its probably 6k.
GET REALISTIC ON YOUR ASKING PRICES.
GET REALISTIC ON YOUR ASKING PRICES.
ian866
Site Supporter
So,,,, £7K for your STh LE ??
A pro, or?
Was just browsing the for sale page and thinking this exact thing. Wonder how long it'll take for sellers to adjust their expectations.
Yep, Pros
£1k off an opened Stern Pro game used to be about the norm, but it's not set in stone. Depends on how much you value 2 years warranty and unboxing, which to me are worth less than £1k.
I'm glad I'm off the merry-go-round for now, I'm happy with the 2 I've got.
It's not a nice feeling seeing a Pin you bought drop drastically in price, it's why I'm out of NIB.
I'm glad I'm off the merry-go-round for now, I'm happy with the 2 I've got.
It's not a nice feeling seeing a Pin you bought drop drastically in price, it's why I'm out of NIB.
20% of the NIB price goes to the vat man, so isn't the net price really the true value of the machine? £8400 less vat = £7000.
That only relates to businesses buying machines.
Not true, the business only gets the net price of the machine when selling. Doesn’t matter whether selling to another business or not, the buyer pays tax on it. Do people really think that when you buy NIB the machine is worth 20% more than it was to the business?
This is one of the reasons I haven't brought any 'nearly new' games, in most cases its better value to get a new one ex VAT.
What happens with resellers of older games (HLD etc) They charge VAT on top, even though presumably VAT had already been payed back in the 90s?
What happens with resellers of older games (HLD etc) They charge VAT on top, even though presumably VAT had already been payed back in the 90s?
How do you buy a new one excluding VAT?