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Ouchy
Solution
1) Washing line
2) Wear things for a bit longer. Being a bit smelly isn't too bad
3) Move pins indoors
4) Bucket of water
Easy
No Idea, the missus says there's one in the garden apparently. No idea what it looks like
My energy supplier is now quoting £1041 a month for our cheapest locked in 1 year tariff. An expect £12492.85 a year. Up from £220 a month last year, £505 currently and a predicted £650 from april.
They refuse to recalculate based on my solar and roof insulation, so this is a worst case cost. I have my own calculations, but they are still scary.
People will not be able to afford this level of cost, they won't be able to reduce the cost to a level they can afford.
They refuse to recalculate based on my solar and roof insulation, so this is a worst case cost. I have my own calculations, but they are still scary.
People will not be able to afford this level of cost, they won't be able to reduce the cost to a level they can afford.
We were using:
11000 kWh electric
36000 kWh gas
Electric usage had gone unchecked for a while but now we have identified the zombie use and turned it off.
Working from home in the pinball cabin with electric heating accounts for ~2000 kWh extra.
We expect to generate ~4000 kWh.
I expect to buy 5000 kWh electric this year.
Gas usage is 20% lower than historical bills show too. Roof insulation reduced heat loss and drafts, so less heat required per room and less heating time required.
But we were expecting bills to go down to recoup the cost of doing the work. This will stop us tackling the next stage of the house restoration, which was strip back to brick, insulate and then finish out rooms.
The house has open fires in every room apart from two with of burners. I can move my home office and pinball machines back into the house. We have options and use excessive amounts of energy. Many households will be at their limits already, 3x or 4x energy rises are going to hurt.
I have a job where volatile market are good for business. But these % rises are really going to harm most business. The cost of heating a premises is going to flow down the chain.
11000 kWh electric
36000 kWh gas
Electric usage had gone unchecked for a while but now we have identified the zombie use and turned it off.
Working from home in the pinball cabin with electric heating accounts for ~2000 kWh extra.
We expect to generate ~4000 kWh.
I expect to buy 5000 kWh electric this year.
Gas usage is 20% lower than historical bills show too. Roof insulation reduced heat loss and drafts, so less heat required per room and less heating time required.
But we were expecting bills to go down to recoup the cost of doing the work. This will stop us tackling the next stage of the house restoration, which was strip back to brick, insulate and then finish out rooms.
The house has open fires in every room apart from two with of burners. I can move my home office and pinball machines back into the house. We have options and use excessive amounts of energy. Many households will be at their limits already, 3x or 4x energy rises are going to hurt.
I have a job where volatile market are good for business. But these % rises are really going to harm most business. The cost of heating a premises is going to flow down the chain.
Jib
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wow, that's a crazy amount of usage!
TBF, we have reduced the gas usage significantly with smart technology and tackling the big ticket issues with the house.
Still on that journey but water doesn’t come in the roof anymore.
But electric heating has made the Electricity go up.
Still on that journey but water doesn’t come in the roof anymore.
But electric heating has made the Electricity go up.
That is truly mental, this is my week so far on electric. I did go around and unplug every phone charger that was not in use and not more careful to not leave lights on etc.. turning the freaking humidifier off Lolol (warm in garage anyway so humidity low)
GF cooked a roast on Wednesday so had hob/oven going for an hour so think that’s why so high that day.
GF cooked a roast on Wednesday so had hob/oven going for an hour so think that’s why so high that day.
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My tariff is pretty good by todays standards...
20.24p/kWh elec + 22.39p/day
3.73p/kWh gas + 25.33p/day
But my £426/month DD just isn't cutting it, so just increased to £800/month
Ouchy ouch ouch!!!
Now if I could get her indoors to accept when she's heated the hose to unbearable, then turn the heating down don't just open the doors leaving the boiler working overtime.
But to be fair most of the pain is from our higher than average electricity usage, 2500kW used in the 40 days since I had the meter replaced!
Chris.
20.24p/kWh elec + 22.39p/day
3.73p/kWh gas + 25.33p/day
But my £426/month DD just isn't cutting it, so just increased to £800/month
Ouchy ouch ouch!!!
Now if I could get her indoors to accept when she's heated the hose to unbearable, then turn the heating down don't just open the doors leaving the boiler working overtime.
But to be fair most of the pain is from our higher than average electricity usage, 2500kW used in the 40 days since I had the meter replaced!
Chris.
Anyone know why they are increasing the standing charges along with the variable rates of the juice in the first place?
Jib
Site Supporter
That’s almost our annual usage in 40 days! Weed farm? Mining crypto? Must be something lolMy tariff is pretty good by todays standards...
20.24p/kWh elec + 22.39p/day
3.73p/kWh gas + 25.33p/day
But my £426/month DD just isn't cutting it, so just increased to £800/month
Ouchy ouch ouch!!!
Now if I could get her indoors to accept when she's heated the hose to unbearable, then turn the heating down don't just open the doors leaving the boiler working overtime.
But to be fair most of the pain is from our higher than average electricity usage, 2500kW used in the 40 days since I had the meter replaced!
Chris.
That’s an idea
but no!Desiccant dehumidifier in the garage, 1.5kW runs most of the day, heat pump heating the games room 24/7 to 18 degrees, 20 degrees if I’m in there (it isn’t that bad on energy consumption though) but the likely big hitter is an electric car, I do appx 30K miles/year so that’s a big chunk. Just have to keep telling myself that appx £400/month I used to spend on diesel is now appx £200/month on electricity, so not all bad.
Still a little painful though.
Chris.
Some eye watering bills here 
I was pleased my Feb gas + elec came in at £95 . Actually less than last year - not as cold , and last year was lockdown so around more in house.
Current tarifs
Gas 4.05p kw/h + 26p standing
Electric 21.5p kw/h + 24p standing
From April 1st
Gas 7.31p kw/h + 27.2p standing
Electric 29.4p kw/h + 41.6 standing
So gas per kw/h jumping big time, and electric standing charge jumping big time. Next winter is gonna hurt as further rises expected.
I was pleased my Feb gas + elec came in at £95 . Actually less than last year - not as cold , and last year was lockdown so around more in house.
Current tarifs
Gas 4.05p kw/h + 26p standing
Electric 21.5p kw/h + 24p standing
From April 1st
Gas 7.31p kw/h + 27.2p standing
Electric 29.4p kw/h + 41.6 standing
So gas per kw/h jumping big time, and electric standing charge jumping big time. Next winter is gonna hurt as further rises expected.
I’m starting my own methane farm. Pretty economical to run. One tin of baked beans and I can produce enough gas to heat the pin room for 35 mins.
What's the excuse for electric rise? I understand we import most of our gas so are subject to what ever price they charge us, but why is electric going up? don't we generate that our self? or do we generate it from gas?
Yep, gas powered power stations. They used to be coal fired but that was a no, no with the switch to green energy. Gas is supposed to be a stop gap whilst greener systems (wind, solar, etc) are installed and brought on line.
OP
OP
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bring back coal and get all the freaking northerners and welsh of their ****s down the mines again.
Neil.
Neil.
taz turbo jnr had a superb suggestion earlier…. ‘Why not build a hydro electric station at home’, ‘well there’s no water where we live’ I replied, then I had my brain wave, we’re not on a water meter! All that energy coming from the tap, it just needs (sorry) tapping into!
Chris.
Chris.
Read something about that the other day, something to do with rising cost to run the network, green energy levies and costs related to supporting the companies who have taken on customers from failed companies, and the warm home discount scheme.
The standing charge is included in the calculations for the Price cap though so they can charge what they want as long as the price per KWh is adjusted so its under the cap when calculated for whatever number of KWhs they use.
Will see if I can find the link.
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2021 Stats
Gas provided 41.9% of electricity generation by Major Power Producers, with renewables at 37.8%, nuclear at 17.0% and coal at 2.4%.
Good explanation here on MSE too
This point concerning but not necessarily surprising
- Due to the events in Ukraine, Cornwall Analysts issued an emergency update of its prediction and is now predicting the rise in October could be a shocking 47%, that would mean it is worth fixing if you can at a price no more than around 25% (was 15%) above April’s price cap.
New Scottish Power rates just in for us.
The last few weeks I have making sure all Tv's and kids X Boxes, lamps etc etc are switched off at the wall instead of sitting in standby. The amount of electricity we use is crazy and I need to monitor it properly tbh asap. We have 2 kids and they play footy a few times a week so that keeps the washing basket topped up all the time, the wife also has that bloody washing machine and tumble dryer on daily.... The wife checked Scottish Power a few weeks back and found out how much it would cost to switch to a fixed rate for the Gas and Electric, £620 !! a month !
The last few weeks I have making sure all Tv's and kids X Boxes, lamps etc etc are switched off at the wall instead of sitting in standby. The amount of electricity we use is crazy and I need to monitor it properly tbh asap. We have 2 kids and they play footy a few times a week so that keeps the washing basket topped up all the time, the wife also has that bloody washing machine and tumble dryer on daily.... The wife checked Scottish Power a few weeks back and found out how much it would cost to switch to a fixed rate for the Gas and Electric, £620 !! a month !