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Wanted Tales of the arabian nights, TOTAN

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Would love one. They are so hard to get.
Having played one at Pinfest, it's not worth £12k.

That said, if you're a fan, maybe if it was a super-mint resto job... just maybe... but, looking closely at the pictures, 'museum-quality' in this context means that the filth on the cream rubbers beside the lamp has been carefully preserved for the edification of future generations :D
 
No not 12 k but as hard as Indy to get hold of. I would say 9k plus pin. I would pay 9k for a fully working game. Not a mint one. Is a fun game to play. Better than some of the crap stern 14k crap coming out.
 
😁😁you always move Gear on to soon.

Not many old pins in my opinion keep the price but this one is one of the few.

Remakes titles are good but don’t make them a classic like the original title . Will know doubt cost more but worth it??? Not sure.
 
£12k... At what point is it cheaper to just convert and rewire a JY or NGG into a TOTAN with a new playfield, Roms and parts?

Is there anything unobtainium on TOTAN?

I realise this would be blaspheme and I don't want the wrath of pinside after me for destroying a pin 😂 I'm just curious
 
😁😁you always move Gear on to soon.

Not many old pins in my opinion keep the price but this one is one of the few.

Remakes titles are good but don’t make them a classic like the original title . Will know doubt cost more but worth it??? Not sure.
I didn't realise TOTAN was *that* popular... :oops:

Genuinely, I played a couple of games on one at Pinfest, and I think I managed to get 50% of the way to the Wizard mode and - honestly - I'm the sort of person who wins a wooden spoon at tournaments for worst performance. I can't even begin to imagine how it has staying power if you're good at pinball. It was also less 'blingy' than I imagined - I thought it would seem larger, somehow, and more 'gold'.

Anyway, people like what they like :)
 
Think it's a nostalgia thing @VeeMonroe

When you look at the last of the line B/W games then compare them to what was comming out of Stern in the early 00s, high roller casino, Sharkeys, Striker exreme etc, it makes more sense why some people hold them in such high regard.
 
a VERY pretty game. IF the remake gets an updated code , it could be very tempting

was seen on a par with TOM as a second tier WPC95 for a long time but is a far rarer game

one of the very few games I didnt play new at a tradeshow and first saw a year old one at Phils and immediately wanted one without even playing it.

always makes you fancy an Indian curry when you play it as well. Subliminal messaging in the soundtrack?
 
a VERY pretty game. IF the remake gets an updated code , it could be very tempting

was seen on a par with TOM as a second tier WPC95 for a long time but is a far rarer game

one of the very few games I didnt play new at a tradeshow and first saw a year old one at Phils and immediately wanted one without even playing it.

always makes you fancy an Indian curry when you play it as well. Subliminal messaging in the soundtrack?
I love the way it features the Scheherazade on the playfield as a ginger lady. Ginger hair being so common among people of Iranian descent (who don't also have multi-generational Scottish-Irish ancestry) :rolleyes:

I mean, honestly, TOTAN artists, how hard would it have been to depict a hot Arabian woman, already?

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I think your reading too much into it, its silkscreened, if they made the hair black it would just be a big blob with no detail.
 
I didn't realise TOTAN was *that* popular... :oops:

Genuinely, I played a couple of games on one at Pinfest, and I think I managed to get 50% of the way to the Wizard mode and - honestly - I'm the sort of person who wins a wooden spoon at tournaments for worst performance. I can't even begin to imagine how it has staying power if you're good at pinball. It was also less 'blingy' than I imagined - I thought it would seem larger, somehow, and more 'gold'.

Anyway, people like what they like :)
There’s more than one way to play ToTAN.
 
I guess you had to be in a pub in the mid 90's to understand how cool a machine like TOTAN was. I speak as an average player who was unaware that there was a competitive pinball scene back then.
We had experienced pinball machines in the arcades in the 60's, 70,s & 80's but the 90's was really when the technology existed to make it a more immersive experience that was something better than just chasing a high score and for that reason alone then most of the 90,s stuff rocked.
Sometimes it isn't about completing modes in the game and then there not being anymore reason to play it and I believe that mentality comes from a generation that grew up with videogame consoles etc.

Whenever we happened to come across a machine sited somewhere back then we would play for the experience and thrill of all that combined new technology and TOTAN was outstanding in that regard.
 
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I guess you had to be in a pub in the mid 90's to understand how cool a machine like TOTAN was. I speak as an average player who was unaware that there was a competitive pinball scene back then.
We had experienced pinball machines in the arcades in the 60's, 70,s & 80's but the 90's was really when the technology existed to make it a more immersive experience that was something better than just chasing a high score and for that reason alone then most of the 90,s stuff rocked.
Sometimes it isn't about completing modes in the game and then there not being anymore reason to play it and I believe that mentality comes from a generation that grew up with videogame consoles etc.

Whenever we happened to come across a machine sited somewhere back then we would play for the experience and thrill of all that combined new technology TOTAN was outstanding in that regard.
Everytime I read this, I feel so sad :( I suppose I kinda just want people to head down to a big venue like Funland in Russell Square, or PBR, or Tilt, or Pinfest, or even someone's house who has a biggish collection, and just play some amazing pinball :)

We're in an incredible era for pinball right now, with loads of manufacturers springing up, making pins with amazing toys like D&D's animatronic dragon, Godzilla's collapsing building, and Elton John's piano, and immortalising some of the most iconic themes of the last few decades.

Because, I enjoy the older pins, but nostalgia is where you've lost something, and you haven't - there are so many great opportunities right now to make new memories :)

Just get out, meet friends, play some great pinball... have fun!
 
It's not about nostalgia as it's a fact that when it came out TOTAN was awesome. We didn't know that the code was disjointed at the time because you never got to play these games lots of times when other people were waiting for their turn. It was basically 1 game which lasted 5 minutes or so and then get back in the queue on a busy pub night.

My recollections are of having lived through the times and experienced first hand the evolution of pinball machines and the 90's had the correct balance for me.
A lot of people enjoying the game now have probably seen the past 10 years where relatively speaking not a great deal of change has happened.

If I want to watch a movie then I will turn the telly on and likewise if I want music blasting continuously I will turn my record player on and if I want nausea inducing bright lights that suck all the atmosphere and mood out of the game then I will attend a local rave for the night.

................ and then of course there are the 45 minute game times.
 
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Everytime I read this, I feel so sad :( I suppose I kinda just want people to head down to a big venue like Funland in Russell Square, or PBR, or Tilt, or Pinfest, or even someone's house who has a biggish collection, and just play some amazing pinball :)

We're in an incredible era for pinball right now, with loads of manufacturers springing up, making pins with amazing toys like D&D's animatronic dragon, Godzilla's collapsing building, and Elton John's piano, and immortalising some of the most iconic themes of the last few decades.

Because, I enjoy the older pins, but nostalgia is where you've lost something, and you haven't - there are so many great opportunities right now to make new memories :)

Just get out, meet friends, play some great pinball... have fun!
I see it like this, in 10 years you went from games like pinbot and high speed, to Totan, by any measure thats a huge amount of progress, and for those at the time, each new release brought something new and exciting.

The last few years the main progress has been in rules and depth, both great, but not so important when playing a game on site, I think you needed to experience that progression in real time to appreciate why games such as these were so exciting.

That being said, its in some ways an advantage to not have that baggage, you can judge a game on merit and buy accordingly, often getting a 'better' game for less.

I find the reasons for nostalgia really interesting, perhaps worthy of a dedicated topic? But in the absence of time travel and being able to be 21 again, having things that remind us of those times are the next best thing.
 
In the 1990s I lived in London Docklands. Regularly I used to go for a pint and pinball in the City Pride pub on Marsh Wall / Westferry as they always had a pinball. TheCity Pride was a proper pub which sadly closed in 2012 and the land has now been developed. 1996 they had a TOTAN which I played regularly.

Docklands was a bit of a novelty back then; a really quiet place to live. Some yuppies but a lot of locals still that had grown up there. It was a nice place to live. The whole area around canary wharf was only partially developed provably 10% of what is there now and not fully occupied and was suffering badly from the 1990s recession. But they used to bring coachloads of Japanese tourists out to see the "city of the future" and they would end up in the City Pride to experience a proper London pub ( that was big enough to take coach loads of tourists).

One evening I got to Wizard Mode on Totan and had accumulated about 20 Japanese tourists watching me. At the end of the game I got a huge round of applause put my initials up as GC and some even wanted photos of me in front of the my high score. I offered up the machine for them to play and none of them wanted to but insisted I continued playing so they could watch more. Didn't do so well after that.

Fast forward 5 years and I'm living in Hong Kong married and first kid on the way. Lovely wife says one day that as we will not be going out so much maybe should get a pinball machine for the house. That's how it all started. I had a TOTAN flown in from Netherlands from a high end restorer who did a playfield strip rerubber and rebuild before sending. The machine had only spent a couple of months on location as it had a fault that kept causing it to reset and the operator pulled it and never got round to fixing it. So it had spent the first 5 years of its life tombstoned in the operators warehouse. I overpaid for it as all newbies do but still have it now and it is as close to HUO as a machine could be. Stlll in my collection and going nowhere.

Yes it is a simple game and pretty easy but a lot of fun and very pretty to look at. Not everything in a collection has to be as hard as nails and with a deep ruleset.
 
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