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Still no release date for the Hobbit?

Moonraker said:
Problem is TH prototype that they were hoping to go in to production with was a turkey with really, really, really long ball times and very little chance of a drain. As touched on in my report for the DPO last year...

http://www.pinballinfo.com/community/threads/dpo-2014-thoughts.15659/#post-87279
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That was my impression also, from seeing at the DPO, it was crap in every department. That said, it shouldn't have taken a year to fix it. My mate in my local club just shrugs whenever I ask if there's any news on his order. A sorry tale :(
 
JT. said:
I have this feeling that JJP isn't going to be here in two years time. TH should have been much easier after they'd built up some experience making WOZ, but it seems to be just as hard for them to get it finished. The company must be burning money in overheads just by standing still. I hope I'm wrong.
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They want to pull their finger out really. The Hobbit doesn't really interest me that much tbh and pretty plain looking compared to WOZ. The videos make it look slow and boring although I'm reserving judgement until I've played a finished or at least near finished example. JJP need to survive a bit longer though as if Pat Lawlors new original themed pin doesn't see the light of day it will be a ****ing travesty!
 
What do people take away from this footage?

For me
Video screen looks pretty cool, far better than Woz. Stern really should have had something similar in GOT given their source material.
Smaug still looks pretty pointless, turns and waggles it's mouth. Anyone had the misfortune to go to Cadbury world? I seem to remember something similar in their strange world of chocolate ride
Does anyone think the axe slingshot things look good?:confused: Most of the machine looks like they've spent time/money on it where as they look like they've fallen out of a cracker
 
Overall, I think the artwork looks incredible, really nice. The stuff on screen looks great too, and I liked the models too (compared to a static Stern model for example) Gameplay-wise, that wasn't the most inspiring video, but i think it looks cool.
 
Judge Dreads said:
Looks like it might be here before MMR, still waiting on that one, BNIB (f*** that for a game of soldiers in future)
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I doubt it, not that I'm expecting MMr anytime soon,just that I'm definitely not expecting TH anytime soon. Xmas 2016 maybe?
 
Isn't MMr finished ? What was the one that Pinball Heaven had at the show ?
 
Looks class. Yeah it's a bummer it's taking so long to come out but that will be forgotten about once it's in everyone's home. Wish I had the cash for one
 
Started to get annoyed about MMr again last night. Looked at their forum and there's still zero information for buyers. There is **** all way I will ever buy from PPS again the future. I can live with the delays, it's the utter distain they have shown to customers by not updating them as to progress which ****s me off.

Seriously never again. I'd consider a NIB from Stern but the rest of them can **** right off. If Phil has a machine in stock then great, maybe that is a contender (or if it's from Stern and I know it'll be there within a few weeks then fine)

JJP, Dutch Pinball, Skit-B, PPS - sorry but my wallet is staying put in future. Would have been interested in Rob Zombie but no way am I getting on the roller coaster again

To clarify I've got no problem with Phil/PH he's caught in these monumental **** ups. To the manufacturers you can all go **** yourselves in future. For me it's not the money, it's the way they treat their customers. Much as I love pinball these guys deserve to go bust. If you can't keep your core customer base happy then they won't keep on buying. It doesn't matter how good your product is, it actually needs to exist. Anyone care for a bet as to who will get the Hobbits when they finally start to be made. Will it be the poor suckers who have paid 3 years ago or new people who come along with new cash?

I'm not in on the machine anymore but there's no way I'll forget about the delays

Clearly I'm not a morning person:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

(Might have to eat humble pie if Phil rings me on Monday to say MMr is here:oops:)
 
I'd be surprised if we get MMr this year. They're currently shipping black trim machines in the US, including orders placed after the initial preorders which is unfair. #437 was shipped 2 days ago. Rick said they'll start the European orders when they get to #500.

It's almost 2 years to the day since the announcement.
 
If MMr slips into next year I would be fuming. But being realistic how long does shipping take? 2-3 weeks? If so even if machines are being made now that would take it to mid Nov - grrrr.

I never actually made it onto JJPs forum as their code didn't work for me. I suspect they are better than updating than PPS, it would be hard to be any worse. I really hope everyone who is waiting for their machine will be happy with it when they turn up

I've got a horrible feeling that when MMr does eventually turn up I'll end up keeping it for less time than I've spent waiting for it to arrive. Maybe I should have just committed the money to 4 2nd hand pins, played them, enjoyed them and swapped them out a few times.
 
My bets are on:

MMr March
TH August

As for TBL , Alien, who knows :confused:
Any others still waiting?
 
Oh go on I'll play.

Hobbit - 3 machines in Dec so they can claim that they shipped in 2015. Normal licence periods are for 3 years so if the clock started in Dec 2014 it would finish in 2017 (total speculation). UK machines available summer 2016?
MMr - I'm more hopeful than you - Feb 2016
TBL - Autumn 2016
Alien - 2017
Rob Zombie 2018
JJP#3 2017
 
johnwhitfield said:
Oh go on I'll play.

Hobbit - 3 machines in Dec so they can claim that they shipped in 2015. Normal licence periods are for 3 years so if the clock started in Dec 2014 it would finish in 2017 (total speculation). UK machines available summer 2016?
MMr - I'm more hopeful than you - Feb 2016
TBL - Autumn 2016
Alien - 2017
Rob Zombie 2018
JJP#3 2017
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Think you are being hard on Heighway there. Had good chat at NLP with Andy, I'm pretty convinced we will see Alien by Easter 2016. Maybe earlier :-)

They have done the hard bit and got the first game coming off the lines.

And oh boy is it sounding promising. Can't wait.
 
I'd love to see Aliens by Easter but I'm not convinced we'll see it by then. Andy's reveal in the summer showed some great things but I didn't get the feeling that they had a working whitewood by that stage (I might be very wrong). He's proved he can build machines with FT so fingers crossed #2 will kick the company up to the next level as he has the theme to do it:thumbs:
 
There's a few on location in the states now. Last step before customer deliveries. The wait is a ****take but once it's in people's homes they will forget about that. I'd still have my WOZ if it wasn't for the self destructing LEDs. Thankfully they've changed the design for TH
 
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