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NHS - Beware

Decent point about non-clinical staff in senior NHS posts. Our A&E gaffer used to be high up in Lidl apparently.
I actually think the NHS needs more staff who have had experience in the private sector, especially senior staff, not everyone needs to be clinical.
There are many clinical people who are promoted to essentially non-clinical posts for which they simply do not have the knowledge or experience.

I don't need to know how to perform a knee replacement to be able to ensure that the components required are adequately stocked and sourced at the best price. Yet there are posts in procurement which are only filled by 'medically trained staff' and are paid a premium because of it. They have no procurement or purchasing experience prior to taking over that role. Products are so specialised in Theatres that everything needs sign off by the consultants anyway, being clinically trained doesn't bring any additional knowledge to the post.

The unions are too strong - simple as that. That's coming from someone who has benefitted from their knowledge and support. However it is virtually impossible to get fired from the NHS for under performing, at any banding. That is the frustration myself, and many other managers have.
 
They're overpriced because we opted to replenish the economy with immigration versus natalism, otherwise known as running a functioning society. That would require the neccessities of life such as affordable housing, availability of housing, availability of good education, suitability of education, sufficient planning of education and the economy to ensure the maximum amount of employment etc. Immigration requires none of these. It costs the government nothing other than artificially growing the population, driving down wages, driving up house prices and declining the existing population. It's a cheap price to pay when you can get away with it.

If population rises because of immigration or births, unless those coming in are for seasonal work they still need transport, housing, medical care. We may save the cost of educating them, however that only lasts one generation, short sighted at best.

I find it interesting the general consensus seem to be less workers supporting more retired folk = less money for public services, this seems like a reasonable argument, except according to Gov figures that's not the case, people claiming state pension has been pretty static, even slightly lower than a few years back, and the number of people in employment has risen steadily in that time.


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If population rises because of immigration or births, unless those coming in are for seasonal work they still need transport, housing, medical care. We may save the cost of educating them, however that only lasts one generation, short sighted at best.

I find it interesting the general consensus seem to be less workers supporting more retired folk = less money for public services, this seems like a reasonable argument, except according to Gov figures that's not the case, people claiming state pension has been pretty static, even slightly lower than a few years back, and the number of people in employment has risen steadily in that time.


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Well that's the thing, the needs of recent migrants aside, naturalised immigrants get old too, demand more money, demand bigger and better houses for themselves and their children, get sick, extract a pension. I found myself in Rochdale last year at a rally attended by largely 50-70 year old naturalised south east asian migrants and they were angrier about immigration than anyone I'm yet to encounter. When you've done more than most to get a foot on the ladder, you're going to be least pleased to be unjustly challenged for it.

I could have gone into that but I felt like I had enough. The argument of less workers supporting more retired folks is facetious - we're under reproduction levels of fertility and the population would start dropping off a cliff in a single generation in the absence of high immigration. Given the unaffordability but continuation of things like the pension scheme and the NHS, sustaining it for one generation is not all it's cracked up to be.

Nothings actually happening but a complete dereliction of responsibility of the government to business as usual, and a dereliction of duty of the population to demand it of them. The NHS is the tip of the iceberg. It isn't a conversation of why isn't the NHS working, in the 20th century we had an aversion to the idea of outsourcing goods and services to foreign sweatshops due to the implications of basic morality and quality, today not only have we intensified using sweatshops abroad, it's extended to domestic wages and allegedly net positive policies for domestic immigration. The NHS should be going to hell in a handcart, along with everything else.
 
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They're overpriced because we opted to replenish the economy with immigration versus natalism, otherwise known as running a functioning society. That would require the neccessities of life such as affordable housing, availability of housing, availability of good education, suitability of education, sufficient planning of education and the economy to ensure the maximum amount of employment etc. Immigration requires none of these. It costs the government nothing other than artificially growing the population, driving down wages, driving up house prices and declining the existing population. It's a cheap price to pay when you can get away with it.

What a load of absolute tripe
 
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