New Stern EULA

[Fubar]

i guess they could. and i guess there will be a scorebit rival or two soon. A £99 price point rival would sell loads i think.

If you look at the scorbit implementation, there's been a pretty massive engineering effort to make it work. Not sure the market is big enough to justify a 100$ price point - maybe I'm wrong.

I do think Stern will release a wifi node board. Their CPU already runs linux so it should be easy to tack on.

 

[Fubar]

The bigger question regarding online tournaments is who is going to administer the score tables and users? Subscription service will be needed on a monthly basis as they don’t run themselves regardless of what people seem to think or used to... I hope we’ve moved passed all the **** I got ten years ago for trying to charge a small fee to run one anyway.

I eould happily pay the same as a Netflix subscription for access etc

I hope Stern make it free! The success of the platform will be in part dictated by the number of users, and casuals won't care to spend $/month just to be 78125th on the leaderboards.

Stern make enough money off the machines themselves - they can offer the basic service for free. Might charge for tournament organisers and other "premium" features though.

 

[James]

I can't see Stern making it free, nor would I expect them to, they may have free "challenges" or something like that to get you into the game, but I imagine the "free" elements will be pretty lite. The question is though, will you have to pay per game (as in actual machine, not every time you hit start)

 

[CHRIS B PINBALLS]

I think a bit of this is a publicity stunt from stern to show that they are actively trying to do something about this but I would be a shame for them to loose good theam games due to this I know that when stern lz distributor webinar was streamed Garry was really upset and to be honest you see 60% of that about 2 hours later 20% is nothing most people would be interested in and 20% Garry waffleing on about stuff
It is pretty poor when cleland does a really good job of the sound and it’s not for rewards it’s for the love
But I do side with the artist when people do things like Neil’s done with iron maiden as an artist it probably makes you feel like someone has destroyed your work this is not a go at you Neil and I am not an iron maiden lover either so it’s just a bit of fun I would probably like your version better
As for stopping it Jim is right if you swap out the card then the cpu will verify it before running it if it see incorrect changes it won’t run it and display a message on the screen telling you this it won’t damage it
I also think you would have to subscribe to stern to go on line they will probably include it in when you become a stern insider for $30 a year or something like that
As for streaming then they can never stop that and what harm is that doing NONE and it productive for sales

 

[AlanJ]

The bigger question regarding online tournaments is who is going to administer the score tables and users? Subscription service will be needed on a monthly basis as they don’t run themselves regardless of what people seem to think or used to... I hope we’ve moved passed all the **** I got ten years ago for trying to charge a small fee to run one anyway.

I eould happily pay the same as a Netflix subscription for access etc

I think it’s more acceptable these days. but we’re all price sensitive, £5-8 a month i guess is an easy sell.


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[BigIan]

I would think the streaming stuff is about the copyrighted songs/music

It also seems to be lightly worded basically saying you might brick your machine rather than WE will brick your machine if you mess about with the code. If they are going to have online tournaments etc then they will have to have checks on versions and have check sums to ensure everyone is playing with the same code. they will have enough problems with people taking the glass off or setting the incline a lot less than recommended without having the added headache of different versions or amended code.

I would guess its record labels and the likes of Disney driving Stern to tighten down on people flaughting their licenses. If you want more of our licensed goodies you will need to show you are policing it etc etc

They will have signed up to defend the license they have been given access to.

 

[johnwhitfield]

The idea that LZ etc are losing anything via live streams etc is pretty laughable. If you wanted to hear a track without paying for it then absolutely no one would go to get their kicks from a pinball stream.

Stern can also **** right off if they want to charge £10 a month on top of a game for an internet league.

 

[BigIan]

its lawyers making money for themselves, they jump on anything that sniffs of copyright.

Usually the bands themselves dont really care and like the exposure, the lawyers get their fees from the labels who get their money from the bands/singers/acts. They defend the music wether the artists want it defended or not