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Machines stolen in Australia
- Thread starter Big Phil
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Multiballs
Inside job..
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Multiballs
Four of the pinballs were on consignment, which means I have to repay those owners $20,000
MB, I initially thought you saying some of the machines were yours and you will lose nearly £13k but now realise you are quoting him.
Inside as in he did it as an insurance job or that someone he thinks is a friend or employee did it?
I can only imagine how sick he would feel to open his storage to find practically nothing there. Someone must have seen something, the more coverage the story gets, the more likely the machines will be discovered.
A bargain that feels too good to be true is often too good to be true, someone will be losing out.
Inside as in he did it as an insurance job or that someone he thinks is a friend or employee did it?
I can only imagine how sick he would feel to open his storage to find practically nothing there. Someone must have seen something, the more coverage the story gets, the more likely the machines will be discovered.
A bargain that feels too good to be true is often too good to be true, someone will be losing out.
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Multiballs
Calimori' date=' post: 1697394 said:
Inside job.. All of the above.
OP
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He didn't have insurance.
them's some pretty sweeping statements there multiballs...
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wayne g' date=' post: 1697404 said:them's some pretty sweeping statements there multiballs...
Yes.
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Big Phil' date=' post: 1697402 said:
What a.....
I of course do not know his financial situation or how insurance works in OZ, but.. come on no insurance. You're just asking to be broken in too.
I would have thought no insurance was quite the opposite, you would be either not thinking about it at all or praying that you were not broken into.Multiballs' date=' post: 1697425 said:
Come on, find some sympathy for a fellow pinball collector.
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Multiballs
We live in a world where people would nick your balls if they were not in a bag.
Harsh.. but it's his own fault.
Harsh.. but it's his own fault.
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Multiballs
A half decent CCTV system with iphone/android app is about £300.
..Cheap for piece of mind.
"Speculate to accumulate" should be taught in schools.
..Cheap for piece of mind.
"Speculate to accumulate" should be taught in schools.
So someone deserves to be stabbed to teach them to wear a stab proof vest do they?
My own belief in CCTV has been severely knocked in the last year when I can identify a person in the video but that appears to not be enough for prosecution.
This has led me to conclude that CCTV is most useful if monitored and you can react to it immediately and stop them whilst they are still there.
Whilst technology is improving, I still haven't found a usable system for £300, data storage for images worth capturing for prosecution would cost you a large chuck of that before cameras costs and automatic detections systems to trigger on heat and movement.... There are ways to stream images to a phone app but again only for monitoring, you would not be able to recognise someone. Then we go back to the point that he said there was no infrastructure in the areas to support the monitored alarm system he would need for insurance which indicates there may be no high speed broadband available for an up link so he spends some money on a 3G solution.
You know what, we don't nearly have enough information to say whether this was "all his fault". He did speculate, he put a chunk of his redundancy money to make his personal interest earn money for his family and now that is ruined because of thieves. Thieves are still the bad guys aren't they?
My own belief in CCTV has been severely knocked in the last year when I can identify a person in the video but that appears to not be enough for prosecution.
This has led me to conclude that CCTV is most useful if monitored and you can react to it immediately and stop them whilst they are still there.
Whilst technology is improving, I still haven't found a usable system for £300, data storage for images worth capturing for prosecution would cost you a large chuck of that before cameras costs and automatic detections systems to trigger on heat and movement.... There are ways to stream images to a phone app but again only for monitoring, you would not be able to recognise someone. Then we go back to the point that he said there was no infrastructure in the areas to support the monitored alarm system he would need for insurance which indicates there may be no high speed broadband available for an up link so he spends some money on a 3G solution.
You know what, we don't nearly have enough information to say whether this was "all his fault". He did speculate, he put a chunk of his redundancy money to make his personal interest earn money for his family and now that is ruined because of thieves. Thieves are still the bad guys aren't they?
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Multiballs
Calimori' date=' post: 1697444 said:So someone deserves to be stabbed to teach them to wear a stab proof vest do they?
Irrelevant/nothing to do with the topic..
I'm giving you MY view on a NEWS article.
..As the meerkats say "Simples"
I've just emailed my local paper, requesting photos of a gang of lads that broke into my property. They were caught via my £300 CCTV. They got 3 years EACH.
Having CCTV does not stop you getting robbed. It may help catch the theives but does not stop them from stealing in the first place.
So I can't see how it is his 'own fault'!
If your house was broken into whilst you were out would you be happy to concede that is was your own fault? I think not.
So I can't see how it is his 'own fault'!
If your house was broken into whilst you were out would you be happy to concede that is was your own fault? I think not.
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Multiballs
You haven't found a CCTV worth purchasing.. I have.
You don't like my view... I do.
We could be at this all day.
You don't like my view... I do.
We could be at this all day.
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Multiballs
Fintan Stack' date=' post: 1697447 said:
No but it's a DAM good prevention!
Often turns thieves away. Doh.
He'd of got at least all his money back or at least a large chunk, if he had insurance. Again, his own fault. Sorry.. Facts are facts.
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Fintan Stack' date=' post: 1697447 said:
It would not happen.
3 guard dogs. 35 CCTV cameras. Alarm linked to the police. 8 foot high electrically operated gates, lunatic home owner.
But enough about my property.
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Multiballs
Granted driving in the UK with no car insurance is illegal..If I came on here and spotted a "what car do you drive" post.
Then posted photos of a 120k porsche (for example) then a few days later it got stolen & it was not insured, what would you stance be towards me?
I can imagine it would be.. Why on earth didn't you insure it? What an idiot multiballs is! etc
Just because pinballs weigh what they way, doesn't not mean that thieves with not chance it. Take the UK for example people are stealing metal off church roofs.
INSURANCE IS A MUST!
Then posted photos of a 120k porsche (for example) then a few days later it got stolen & it was not insured, what would you stance be towards me?
I can imagine it would be.. Why on earth didn't you insure it? What an idiot multiballs is! etc
Just because pinballs weigh what they way, doesn't not mean that thieves with not chance it. Take the UK for example people are stealing metal off church roofs.
INSURANCE IS A MUST!
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Multiballs
..Now breath.
Multiballs' date=' post: 1697450 said:It would not happen.
3 guard dogs. 35 CCTV cameras. Alarm linked to the police. 8 foot high electrically operated gates, lunatic home owner.
But enough about my property.
Even if that is true, it doesn't mean you wouldn't get robbed.
Banks are rammed with security measures but they still get robbed.
And I am not disagreeing with you about the insurance. Having no insurance was definately pretty stupid on his part. But having insurance does not stop you getting robbed. So again, I can't see how it is his fault. It's his fault that he can't claim anything for his loss but not his fault he got robbed.
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Fintan Stack' date=' post: 1697453 said:
Bank.. House. Bank.. House.
Residential.. Business.. Residential.. Business.
I'm unable to find the connection.
..he is now out of pocket due to no insurance, thus making it his fault that his business is no more.
Multiballs' date=' post: 1697454 said:
The point is that you are claiming you won't be robbed because you have security measures in place. I am simply stating that doesn't mean you wouldn't get robbed.
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Fintan Stack' date=' post: 1697455 said:
22 years & nothing.. Going strong, going strong.
***Post edited***
Very amusing in context, however maybe will offend some.... Soz...
Must be the way you sweet talk her mate
No longer funny bit that it!s been edited lol
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wayne g' date=' post: 1697469 said:
Obs. Well Jel. Totes.
Rest assured you have nothing I need to be 'jell' about.
I am more than happy with my wife believe me. I just don't feel the need to post about her on an Internet forum...especially in a way that gets moderated out.
I am more than happy with my wife believe me. I just don't feel the need to post about her on an Internet forum...especially in a way that gets moderated out.
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Multiballs
Surly someone in Oz will know where those tables have gone..
As a security surveyor for 15 years, if someone wants to break into/get something, they will. No exceptions. I've encountered the most extreme measures you can imagine from driving through brick walls, poisoning dogs, threatening owner/employees/security guards with knives/guns etc. etc.
The ONLY thing you can do is limit the amount of time someone has on site to steal the items they want, through monitored CCTV (to visually verify the incident) or approved intruder alarm with URN to achieve automatic police response. Fortunately, pins aren't usually that quick to shift so quantity loss can sometimes be limited with these measures in place.
The ONLY thing you can do is limit the amount of time someone has on site to steal the items they want, through monitored CCTV (to visually verify the incident) or approved intruder alarm with URN to achieve automatic police response. Fortunately, pins aren't usually that quick to shift so quantity loss can sometimes be limited with these measures in place.