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Oooo Yes please.

Still toying with using threadripper for my next build. its a nice saving over the i9 lineup but i'm a hardcore gamer too and have had nvidia/intel harmony for the last ten years. Jan sales will be interesting.....:D
 
A friend of mine bought the parts for a Threadripper setup - yes, I consider him an absolute git - but there was also a SNAFU during installation and one of the socket pins is bent. Naaasty.
Waiting for him to mail it over to me because I've a steady hand and lots of very small pointy implements...

The only time I've been truly burnt by AMD vs. Intel gaming performance was discovering in Rainbow Six: Siege, just how much a Radeon RX480 was being bottlenecked by the AMD A10 APU. Yes, that's a weird combination... it was my daily-driver PC that started life out as a MiniITX build in a case smaller than an Xbox 360. When I moved and had enough living space to actually have a computer desk, instead of essentially having to build a computer around an IKEA chair, complete with VESA-monitor floating arm, it grew up a bit until I realised just how fundamentally screwed I was trying to get more than 55FPS out of Siege with anything that fits into the FM2+ socket. After wasting time and money on an AMD Athlon X4 880K, it was time to change socket... and AMD was not impressing at all sadly.

First time I strayed into the 'dark side' for me and bought right up into a i7-6800k. I still feel a bit dirty, though the game performance soothes it a little bit.

I'm a red team lad... easy to be one when your budget for years was pocket money.
 
PBrookfield said:
I'm not making any personal statement to the author of the following quote and I apologise in advance, but statements describing the concept of a blockchain like "This is truly an incredible innovation on a par with with the invention of the Internet" are almost laughable in their excess. Nobody that has been able to convince me on both a technical level and on the economic level of understanding has had anything so enormous to claim about cryptocurrency.
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No offense taken, and maybe the claim is excessive. But my claim is not about cryptocurrency per se but about blockchain technology. It may not turn out to be the case but I suspect that it - or something derived from it - will be very important in the future. That may have nothing to do with cryptocurrency at all.
 
Mfresh said:
No offense taken, and maybe the claim is excessive. But my claim is not about cryptocurrency per se but about blockchain technology. It may not turn out to be the case but I suspect that it - or something derived from it - will be very important in the future. That may have nothing to do with cryptocurrency at all.
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My real point is, blockchain is just a subtle application of the maths that we already understood with cryptography in the first place. It's a bloody clever bit of lateral thinking to have applied it as a web-of-trust-applicable model, absolutely - and I can easily sit down and ponder whether modern cryptography as a whole, or the Internet as it exists today, was the more impactful human invention.

It's just a shame that the incredibly interesting and powerful mathematics - yet again - doesn't gain any popular attention until people can monetize it. I guarantee that interest in blockchain would be very, very niche (as crypto stuff tended to be in the past) if it wasn't given the most roaring and impactful of demonstrations to those with no interest in the maths - a working demonstration that modern cryptographical methods are so mathematically friggin' tough, and the mathematics so complete in their theory, that it happily protects the entire concept of a monetary system and a currency within its bowels, and even with multi-millions up for grabs to someone that can defeat it... it just cannot be done. The only real attack against it, typically, is not against the maths, but blockchain being so minimal an application of the theory has a ridiculously small attack surface. It's an easy concept to grasp to visualise the magnitude of computing strength required to take over 50% of mining production. Far easier to swallow than just statistical theory, something which casinos and bookies actively rely on the average punter failing to understand at core.

Maths and applied maths are so incredibly interesting and harbour such power, but it can be sometimes nearly impossible to grasp the magnitude of the concepts the numbers tell you unless they are applied in such glorious demonstrations. Cryptographical security has cryptocurrency to demonstrate it publically (and way more sexily than simple identity proof and data security can, as the public doesn't appreciate either of these methods as they are just worked around rather than beaten.) And the next-to-infinite ability of a computer to simulate and make calculations is the working demonstration of Turing completeness theory.

I think this joke I stole from a friend, who stole from a friend, who stole from Twitter, makes the point as cutely as I ever heard:

'If you ever feel bad about making a 'nasty hack' in your program, just remember that a CPU is just a rock that we tricked into thinking. And in order to do that, we first had to make the rock flat, and fill it with lightning.'
 
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Swapped into Dash.... Prices do seem to be better in the early hours. 16% gain, have liquidated and will look for another target in middle of the night. @DRD I have no idea what supports the pricing... No p/e ratio etc.... Just punts on the cycles, and taking profit and not being greedy.
 
Will look for a deal on ethereum, as not followed the same curves today...... .

Might be just spinning the roulette wheel, but better than the lottery
 
Got out of monero last night for a nice return, then straight into Bitcoin Cash. Currently waiting to dump that too.
 
I'm selling off Ethereum today, looks like loads of resistance at $400. I need some decent FUD to tank the market again now so I can reload. Maybe @RobZombie and @PBrookfield could write a piece for us! :p

The great thing about Crypto is there's a huge argument going on between advocates and critics which results in massive price volatility. Personally I couldn't give a toss what happens in the distant future nor do I try to predict it. I just react to and trade the charts as it happens. We only live once and like it or not we live in a capitalist society and that means the more money you make the better lifestyle you can lead. If I can make decent money trading thin air on the internet then so be it, it sure beats working my ******** off and I actually enjoy doing it. :cool:
 
aaronhicksuk said:
I'm selling off Ethereum today, looks like loads of resistance at $400. I need some decent FUD to tank the market again now so I can reload. Maybe @RobZombie and @PBrookfield could write a piece for us! :p

The great thing about Crypto is there's a huge argument going on between advocates and critics which results in massive price volatility. Personally I couldn't give a toss what happens in the distant future nor do I try to predict it. I just react to and trade the charts as it happens. We only live once and like it or not we live in a capitalist society and that means the more money you make the better lifestyle you can lead. If I can make decent money trading thin air on the internet then so be it, it sure beats working my ******** off and I actually enjoy doing it. :cool:
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Couldn't have said it better myself. :thumbs:

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What exchanges are people using to trade on? Coinbase seems to be the one mentioned most when I Google
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I use:

Bitstamp
Cryptopia
Bittrex
Poloniex

Coinbase (or GDAX) is the largest but i've had a few issues with them in the past, so i stay away from them now. Bitstamp has the best support and easiest to learn user interface. Poloniex and cryptopia are fast and reliable for me, so i use them the most. Beware of all fees at all times on any exchange.
 
Coinbase is good for getting in and out of fiat currency but they have quite high fees. I've since learnt that it might be possible to circumvent a lot of these by sending your money to Coinbase and then buying your Crypto at GDAX which is their sister exchange.

For actual trading I mainly use Bittrex but also have accounts on Poloniex, HitBTC, Cryptopia and Liqui. Sometimes it's possible to make great money with arbitrage between exchanges, instant practically risk free profit.

Whatever exchanges you use I highly recommend Coinigy which is a web based trading platform that ties everything together. First 30 days are free and then it's like $150 a year which is very reasonable for what it offers.
 
This seems all gobbledygook to me. No idea what you guys are talking about. Script Mining?? Can you buy a pinball machine with Mars Bars? Probably. Don't know much about Bitcoins but I know what a 'vertical up kicker' is. When did the world get so complicated? Drink beer, play pinball, go to work and try to have 'relations' with the wife. Rinse and repeat!

(Do actually know a bit about Bitcoins but not as much as the rocket scientists above)
 
aaronhicksuk said:
I'm selling off Ethereum today, looks like loads of resistance at $400. I need some decent FUD to tank the market again now so I can reload. Maybe @RobZombie and @PBrookfield could write a piece for us! :p

The great thing about Crypto is there's a huge argument going on between advocates and critics which results in massive price volatility. Personally I couldn't give a toss what happens in the distant future nor do I try to predict it. I just react to and trade the charts as it happens. We only live once and like it or not we live in a capitalist society and that means the more money you make the better lifestyle you can lead. If I can make decent money trading thin air on the internet then so be it, it sure beats working my ******** off and I actually enjoy doing it. :cool:
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I totally agree that money is important. So important that it's not something I personally could leave to chance, luck or market conditions.
 
Courtney Blush said:
I would consider a bitcoin as payment but would require some heavy negotiation due to the risk.
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You could open an account at somewhere like Bitstamp.net which would have its own Bitcoin deposit address, get the punter to send the Bitcoin to that address, then liquidate to fiat and straight into your bank account if you so wished. Whole process (once used to it) would take less than a minute. Just add Bitstamps fees onto the cost of the pin and voila! Transaction complete.
 
Rus121 said:
You could open an account at somewhere like Bitstamp.net which would have its own Bitcoin deposit address, get the punter to send the Bitcoin to that address, then liquidate to fiat and straight into your bank account if you so wished. Whole process (once used to it) would take less than a minute. Just add Bitstamps fees onto the cost of the pin and voila! Transaction complete.
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Or you could ask for payment in pounds and cut that whole stage out. Let the punter do all the exchange-fu! :hmm:
 
If a punter wants to pay with toe nail clippings and you can make a profit from it, then why not?
 
Mate tried explaining this mining malarky and it didn't sink in, and I wasn't prepared to try build a rig (if I could) to mine Bitcoins.
I'm knowledgeable enough to know there's some very clever comp guys out there that would screw you over!!
I'll stick to my factory job to earn a crust, I'll never be as rich as some of you guys but it pays the bills.
 
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I am a computer guy but I've never mined Crypto. The biggest problem with mining in the UK is that electricity is far too expensive. You also need ASIC's these days to mine Bitcoin and other coins that use the same mining algorithm profitably. There are other coins that are profitable with GPU's such as Monero but electricity is still too much here to bother. I've read that in certain parts of Russia and Iceland some people are using mining rigs to heat their houses which sounds like a great plan, but they have cheap electricity too.
 
Last time I was making more on shares than the day job.... It went tits, black Monday I think they call it....

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