What's the most you've wasted restoring a pin

cmrl9 · Thursday at 11:32 PM

Watching the great British podcast it got me thinking about judge dread and in relative terms the money and time that will be spent to restore one to minty fresh just wouldn't make sense to a sane person economically.

Being insane I will start

I acquired king bozo LOTR for £3600 a fair price, it came via a trade, however it was a bit of a rot box, mechanically great, played well, but covered in salt damage, damaged cab etc etc. not knowing my personal requirements at the time, ie I like machines in very good nick, I went loony tune on it, changing all the plastics, no's stickers basically I cleared out Marco and pinball life of every new old stock part in there stores, changed all the metal the screws just stupid stuff and ending up spending a fortune, thousands which was frankly absolutely stupid, a mistake I will never make again, I could have put aside the cash for a year and bought a gold plated one

I think this must make me the thanos of bozos any one want to also embarrass themselves and try and take the infinity gauntlet of stupidity off me.

The only saving grace the machine ended up in a great home and I can go and cry over it from time to time.
Supervised of course

s000m · Thursday at 11:59 PM

Cyberpunk retheme.

JM : 2800 (If I remember right)
Playfield retheme and clear coat (including shipping and import fees) 1200
Custom plastics 200-300 I forgot how much
Pinsound plus + speakers 400
Cabinet decals:
Back glass 195
Speaker panel 65
Art blades 85
Custom backbox stencil 75
Invisi glass 130
Powder coat £350
New metals (lock bar, side rails, legs) 270
Titan rubbers 60
LED OCD 150
OCD GI 150
Posts, balls and so much more I can't count it all.

This excludes my own labour and my wife's hundred plus hours drawing it all.

That's just one example of the spendature I've gone through.

cmrl9 · Friday at 12:07 AM

s000m said:
Cyberpunk retheme.

JM : 2800 (If I remember right)
Playfield retheme and clear coat (including shipping and import fees) 1200
Custom plastics 200-300 I forgot how much
Pinsound plus + speakers 400
Cabinet decals:
Back glass 195
Speaker panel 65
Art blades 85
Custom backbox stencil 75
Invisi glass 130
Powder coat £350
New metals (lock bar, side rails, legs) 270
Titan rubbers 60
LED OCD 150
OCD GI 150
Posts, balls and so much more I can't count it all.

This excludes my own labour and my wife's hundred plus hours drawing it all.

That's just one example of the spendature I've gone through.

I remembered I did a spread sheet

Item	Cost
Original Trade	£200.00
Front custom Plate	£10.00
Custom Ball Guard	£10.00
Ball shooter assembly	£26.95
Lord of the Rings Shooter Rod	£75.31
Ball shooter Plate, Comet Superbright bulb	£17.99
Rings for Shooter rod	£0.50
Clip on Reflectors	£3.50
Big Bag of Nuts	£20.00
Yellow Flippers	£7.90
Gold Flipper Button	£35.26
Polaris Balls, bulbs, Silocone Rubbers	£54.68
Ball Shooter Protector,, Light Puck, Cliffy Hole, Sword Handle, Ring post kit, various decal, Blue Rubber	£245.62
NOS Stickers	£100.00
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Ball lock switch bracket x 1	£2.82
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Ring funnel x 1	£28.24
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Ramp sword rt x 1	£72.64
Lamp cover - USA silicone Red x 1	£0.64
Lamp #906 Red - 10-pack x 1	£6.45
Lamp #906 Miniature - 10-pack x 1	£3.22
Machine Screw 6-32 x 2 inch p-ph x 1	£0.31
Machine Screw 6-32 x 5/8" pl-hwh x 2	£0.47
Bumper post 10-32 x 2-1/4 inch 6-32 tap x 4	£9.65
Mini post - wood screw thread x 4	£6.43
Machine Screw 6-32 x 3/8" p-ph-sems x 2	£0.47
Screw 2-56 x 1/2 inch hwh serr. #4HD x 2	£0.95
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Ramp flap x 1	£4.43
Rivet - 1/8" x 3/16" tubular aluminum x 8	£2.52
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Ramp flap left x 1	£6.45
Machine Screw 6-32 x 3/8" p-ph-sems x 6	£1.40
Wire ball gate x 1	£3.62
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Wire ball guide right x 1	£6.05
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Wire ball guide left x 1	£3.22
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Target switch kit x 1	£29.05
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Divertor gate x 1	£24.21
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Ball guide welded x 1	£17.75
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Ball guide short curve x 1	£17.75
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Ring ramp trap fix x 1	£9.68
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Flat rail x 1	£7.26
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Flat rail x 1	£6.45
Leg bolt 3/8-16 x 2-1/2 inch acorn head brass x 8	£8.33
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Ball guide welded metal rail #2 x 2	£35.50
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Wiregate x 1	£3.22
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Bracket - right rollunder x 1	£7.26
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Wire ball gate x 1	£3.62
Mini Post #10-32 bottom .875" x 5	£12.07
Mini post 10-32 stud .4 inch x 2	£4.50
Mini post - wood screw thread x 6	£14.48
Sheet Metal Screw #6 x 1/2 inch p-trh x 12	£1.16
Ball guide wire form x 2	£6.44
Ball guide - clear return lane guide x 2	£12.90
Bracket - center drain ball guide x 1	£36.32
Flipper snubber wire .125 dia x 3.125 inch x 2	£1.60
Shooter tip - black rubber x 2	£0.95
refund	-£46.72
FedEx International Priority 1-5 Days
Duty and Tax
Plunger Tip for The Lord of the Rings
Gold Ring Plastic for The Lord of the Rings	£32.43
10 x [19822] T-Nut 6-32"	£32.43
1 x [15005] Nylon sleeve 44x12,5mm (03-7066)	£32.43
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Bracket center ramp trap x 1	£2.27
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Spinner and decal assembly x 1	£12.22
Magnet bushing x 1	£13.03
Coil - solenoid flipper w/diode 090-5032-0T x 1	£17.11
Flipper rebuild kit Sega/Stern 2 left 1 right x 1	£57.04
Spring washer 1/2 inch inner diameter x 1	£1.05
E-clip for 7/16 in. shaft x 1	£0.32
Spring - compression 5/8" x 1/2" x 1	£1.05
Sheet Metal Screw #6 x 1/2 inch p-trh x 12	£1.17
Rubber ring - Black 27/64 inch or 7/16 inch OD x 6	£1.91
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Magnet plate x 1	£41.56
Lamp fluorescent F20T12CW 24 inch 165-5031-02 x 1	£8.14
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Decal ring x 1	£5.70
Fluorescent starter FS-2/FS-22 x 1	£0.81
LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Back panel trough x 1	£22.00
FedEx International Priority 1-5 Days
Duty and Tax
Pinsound Kit, Board, Speakers, Headphone Station	£529.44
Tools	£68.20
Soft Socket 5/8" No Scratch Leg Bolt Socket	£5.99
7/16" OD Mini Post Silicone Pinball Machine Rubber - Yellow	£4.08
7/16" OD Mini Post Silicone Pinball Machine Rubber - Green	£7.65
Shipping
545-5105-00 - Grommet	£0.81
266-5022-00 - Spring - compression	£2.96
515-5941-01 - Plunger assembly 3.5 inch VUK	£31.44
269-5002-00 - Spring washer 1/2 inch inner diameter	£2.14
545-5076-01 - Coil sleeve - 1-15/16 inch long with 1/4 inch flange	£1.64
535-5203-03 - Bracket - coil front	£6.61
180-5116-01 - Switch - sub-miniature with Y lever	£21.51
535-6539-00 - Plate - switch body protect	£21.51
535-8296-01 - Bracket - VUK Stern right	£2.14
535-8296-00 - Bracket - VUK Stern left	£24.83
237-5510-01 - Machine Screw 6-32 x 1-1/2 inch p-flh	£26.48
03-6035-6 - Pop bumper skirt - yellow	£4.80
254-5039-14 - Spacer - plastic standoff .875 inch	£2.21
PK1127 - LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Plastic post kit	£3.61
535-9381-00 - LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Crystal Ball Bracket	£19.86
550-5061-02 - Lane guide - light hood - red	£12.41
545-5197-06 - Pop bumper body Data East/Sega/Stern yellow	£11.56
545-5197-00 - Pop bumper body - Data East/Stern	£7.43
535-9397-00 - LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Mirror bracket	£7.43
535-8250-01 - Bracket - deflector saucer	£9.10
266-5047-00 - Spring - compression	£4.96
535-7346-00 - Yoke - metal with lip 535-5072-00	£1.22
03-7066 - Coil sleeve - 1-3/4 x 1/2 inch	£4.94
01-5493 - Yoke fiber - pop bumper	£2.46
A-4754 - Ring and rod	£2.46
4108-01115-08 - Sheet Metal Screw #8 x 1/2" pl-hwh-a	£17.36
535-8394-00 - Bracket - arch retainer Stern	£1.44
	£8.26
Delivery
Taxes
LOTR Special flipper coils	£55.65
Soft Socket 5/8" No Scratch Leg Bolt Socket	£5.99
7/16" OD Mini Post Silicone Pinball Machine Rubber - Yellow	£4.08
7/16" OD Mini Post Silicone Pinball Machine Rubber - Green	£7.65
Delivery
7/16" Snap In Nyliner
545-5418-00
Backbox Flasher Kit For Lord Of The Rings
apbe_01
Choose A Color: Red
Lord of the Rings Liv Tyler Arwen Plastic	£64.17
280-5014-00 - Spindle stop - rubber tip adjustable	£4.15
266-5022-01 - Spring - compression 5/8" x 1/2"	£2.15
515-6858-00 - Plunger assembly 3.75 inches	£39.92
269-5002-00 - Spring washer 1/2 inch inner diameter	£2.15
545-5076-01 - Coil sleeve - 1-15/16 inch long with 1/4 inch flange	£1.65
090-5044-00 - Coil - solenoid with diode DE/Sega/Stern	£28.27
545-5428-00 - Bumper - rubber 1 inch diameter	£6.44
20-8712-43 - E-clip for 7/16 in. shaft	£0.32
090-5004-00 - Coil - solenoid Data East/Sega/Stern 27-1500	£12.47
535-7356-00 - Coil bracket notched (3)	£12.46
A-16883-13 - Pushbutton 1-1/8 inch clear	£4.14
237-6151-00 - Machine Screw 4-40 x 5/16 inch p-flh undercut	£1.90
535-9399-00 - LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) VUK guard	£7.48
Shipping
Duty and Tax
Silicone Post Rubber For Williams/Bally Era Pinball Machines - Yellow
Thin Silicone Post Rubber For Modern Stern Pinball Machines - Yellow
3/16" Silicone Pinball Machine Rubber - Yellow
5/16" Silicone Pinball Machine Rubber - Yellow
7/16" Silicone Pinball Machine Rubber - Yellow
3/8" OD Mini Post Silicone Pinball Machine Rubber - Transluscent
3/16" Silicone Pinball Machine Rubber - Transluscent	£38.97
4006-01027-40 Machine Screw 6-32 x 2-1/2 inch long phillips with round washer head.
Coin door lock (keyless or keyed) - keyless
Auto launch kicker assembly - 500-6091-00
090-5036-0B (090-5036-01) Solenoid
COIL SLEEVE 2-11/16 OFFSET - 03-7067-6
Sleeve for ball poppers 03-7067-2
Sleeve for solenoid 03-7066	£76.24
Delivery
Ring and Rod	£5.25
Delivery
535-9348-00 - LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Balrog bracket	£19.14
266-5076-00 - Spring - compression Balrog LOTR	£1.66
535-7948-01 - Bracket - trap door	£4.57
535-9398-00 - LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Balrog bracket	£14.15
550-5059-00 - Post 1-1/16 inch black plastic	£1.32
530-5332-03 - Bumper post 10-32 x 2-1/2 inch 6-32 stud	£29.24
240-5204-00 - T-nut 10-32 x 5/16 inch	£1.48
4410-01118-00 - T-Nut 10-32 x 7/16 x 3/4 inch base	£1.22
4406-01118-00 - T-Nut 6-32 thread 1/4 inch barrel 1/2 inch 3 prong	£1.30
820-6348-00 - LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Decal ring	£11.64
530-5127-00 - Bumper post 8-32 stud 1-15/16	£13.31
530-5332-01 - Bumper post 10-32 x 2-1/4 inch 6-32 tap	£11.22
550-5061-02 - Lane guide - light hood - red	£2.91
38-0316B - Rubber ring - Black 3/16 inch ID	£1.30
M-1536 - Pin cotter 1/16 x 1/2 inch	£2.63
242-5078-00 - Washer - nylon .32 x .75 x .13 inch	£0.32
02-4252-18 - Hex spacer 1/4 inch f-f 6-32 x 1-1/8"	£4.15
502-5022-00 - LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Balrog LED kit	£20.81
036-5492-15-80 - LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Cable Balrog switch	£20.81
Delivery
Duty and Tax
090-5044-00 - Coil - solenoid with diode DE/Sega/Stern	£14.17
545-5105-00 - Grommet	£0.41
266-5020-00 - Spring - compression 1-1/2"	£0.83
515-5941-01 - Plunger assembly 3.5 inch VUK	£15.84
545-5076-01 - Coil sleeve - 1-15/16 inch long with 1/4 inch flange	£0.83
535-8964-00 - Bracket - back panel mounting	£5.82
Shipping
Taxes
Insertion tool for insert panel lamp holders IDC	£6.08
Flasher dome, twist style 03-8171- - Yellow	£3.98
Flasher dome, twist style 03-8171- - Red	£5.97
Shipping
32mm Slow blow (1.25") fuse. - 7a-pack-of-5	£ 3.60
32mm Slow blow (1.25") fuse. - 3a-pack-of-5	£ 3.00
32mm Slow blow (1.25") fuse. - 5a-pack-of-5	£ 3.00
32mm Slow blow (1.25") fuse. - 4a-pack-of-5	£ 3.00
32mm Slow blow (1.25") fuse. - 8a-pack-of-5	£ 6.00
090-5036-0B (090-5036-01) Solenoid	£ 14.40
Shipping
Lord of the Rings Balrog Molded Plastic	£65.95
180-5119-02 - Switch - micro roller actuator	£4.99
266-5022-01 - Spring - compression 5/8" x 1/2"	£3.22
535-9391-00 - LORD OF THE RINGS (Stern) Spring retainer	£3.32
515-6027-08 - Target switch 1 x 1-1/2 inch rectangular white	£16.64
090-5044-00 - Coil - solenoid with diode DE/Sega/Stern	£28.30
269-5002-00 - Spring washer 1/2 inch inner diameter	£2.15
545-5883-18 - T Molding - 3/4 inch gold with black center - per foot	£21.54
FedEx International Priority 1-5 Days
Duty and Tax
Plantar Mod	£140.00
Power Distribution Board	£35.00
Path of the Dead Mod, Plastics	£165.00
Lockdown Bar	£111.88

Total	£3,539.68

cmrl9 · Friday at 12:08 AM

after all that the cabinet was still ********

cmrl9 · Friday at 12:11 AM

s000m said:
Cyberpunk retheme.

JM : 2800 (If I remember right)
Playfield retheme and clear coat (including shipping and import fees) 1200
Custom plastics 200-300 I forgot how much
Pinsound plus + speakers 400
Cabinet decals:
Back glass 195
Speaker panel 65
Art blades 85
Custom backbox stencil 75
Invisi glass 130
Powder coat £350
New metals (lock bar, side rails, legs) 270
Titan rubbers 60
LED OCD 150
OCD GI 150
Posts, balls and so much more I can't count it all.

This excludes my own labour and my wife's hundred plus hours drawing it all.

That's just one example of the spendature I've gone through.

less than I thought on that game, at least you got a one of a kind out of it , altough the labour and drawing work would be mad costs.

I think I might still have the glove, as my cabinet was a still a bag of *****

Its is the gauntet of stupidity, altough buying a judge dread to minty up might have to take it off me

cmrl9 · Friday at 12:15 AM

I dint include the import duties and shipping, its too depressing, damn pay pal interest free, as the bits whrre bought it drips and drabs and covid lockdown was about.

As I said mad money, never ever ever ever again

s000m · Friday at 12:16 AM

cmrl9 said:
less than I thought on that game, at least you got a one of a kind out of it , altough the labour and drawing work would be mad costs.

I think I might still have the glove, as my cabinet was a still a bag of *****

Its is the gauntet of stupidity, altough buying a judge dread to minty up might have to take it off me

Yeah you have to bare in mind getting art commissions done saved me a good £1k I'd say.

All the replacement metals, screws, nuts and bulbs etc you can go ahead and add about 200.

I only use BOM's for client builds it's too depressing to watch your own money burn

cmrl9 · Friday at 12:18 AM

Covid and the stupid bubble was the only thing that saved me loosing my shirt, pants, car house, dog cat monkey on it, in toddays market

cmrl9 · Friday at 12:23 AM

s000m said:
Yeah you have to bare in mind getting art commissions done saved me a good £1k I'd say.

All the replacement metals, screws, nuts and bulbs etc you can go ahead and add about 200.

I only use BOM's for client builds it's too depressing to watch your own money burn

Yeh at least and doing the custom call outs music your self takes a bit of skill.

a giant bonfire, i tell myself well at least you didnt buy 4 dominos this month "lol"

my latest machine is as new condition, zero spend on it, except for the avengers tower, dr strange house, wiz mods aprons..... whoops goes back to being an ostrich.

because that machine is a one of a kind, i actually think it might be valuable to the right person, where as a LOTR not so much, alotugh it went 3 machines ago, im not sure you deserve the gauntlet.

Lets see if any one else will fess up and earn it .....

perhaps £5K on a leathal weapon 3 build, any one any one, ok ok ok

lukewells · Friday at 8:44 AM

I don't have records as it is from a long time ago, but I got scammed buying a Rocky and Bullwinkle by the well known arcade scammers in Castleford, who change their business names on a regular basis and are currently using the trademarked named of an old pinball manufacturer

So I bought the machine complete, but it arrived with the playfield stripped to nothing, the right side rail missing and the coin door missing. I can't exactly remember the board situation, but the psu and flipper boards were definitely missing as I had to get Rottendog replacements of those.

This started nearly 20 years ago, so reproduction parts were not readily available for any pinball machines really, certainly not in the UK

I had to buy everything from posts, mechs, ramps, wireforms, plastics.

Some bits I remember :-

Got a plastic set from Chile pinball - the best repro plastics company there ever was - which got shut down by Wayno lawsuits

Topper and also backbox "hat mechanism" plastics from Chile pinball

Imported siderails from the US

Rottendog new boards for whatever boards were missing

Built the "save nell" mechanism from individual parts - took literally years to source everything and spend £500 probably

Got the targets from the 2005 UK pinball show (who remembers when there used to be multiple parts stalls back at the old shows?) - think I also got a NOS DMD display there for a low price of £70

Bought a scrap LW3 in the US and got the seller to just post me all the mechanisms (pop bumpers, slingshots, flipper mechs etc)

Bought the coloured wireforms from a scrap machine (cant remember where)

New ramps

Backglass from someone on this forum a few years back

So no idea what I spent in parts, maybe £2000-£2500 + the cost of the machine, so 20 years later the machine is almost worth what I spent on it

mplayfield · Friday at 8:48 AM

cmrl9 said:
Watching the great British podcast it got me thinking about judge dread and in relative terms the money and time that will be spent to restore one to minty fresh just wouldn't make sense to a sane person economically.

Being insane I will start

I acquired king bozo LOTR for £3600 a fair price, it came via a trade, however it was a bit of a rot box, mechanically great, played well, but covered in salt damage, damaged cab etc etc. not knowing my personal requirements at the time, ie I like machines in very good nick, I went loony tune on it, changing all the plastics, no's stickers basically I cleared out Marco and pinball life of every new old stock part in there stores, changed all the metal the screws just stupid stuff and ending up spending a fortune, thousands which was frankly absolutely stupid, a mistake I will never make again, I could have put aside the cash for a year and bought a gold plated one

I think this must make me the thanos of bozos any one want to also embarrass themselves and try and take the infinity gauntlet of stupidity off me.

The only saving grace the machine ended up in a great home and I can go and cry over it from time to time.
Supervised of course

I wouldn’t beat yourself up so much, you got some back when you sold it and learnt loads on the repair journey and ultimately made a pin great again, well apart from the cab art

KevM · Friday at 9:53 AM

s000m said:
Cyberpunk retheme.

JM : 2800 (If I remember right)
Playfield retheme and clear coat (including shipping and import fees) 1200
Custom plastics 200-300 I forgot how much
Pinsound plus + speakers 400
Cabinet decals:
Back glass 195
Speaker panel 65
Art blades 85
Custom backbox stencil 75
Invisi glass 130
Powder coat £350
New metals (lock bar, side rails, legs) 270
Titan rubbers 60
LED OCD 150
OCD GI 150
Posts, balls and so much more I can't count it all.

This excludes my own labour and my wife's hundred plus hours drawing it all.

That's just one example of the spendature I've gone through.

Wouldn't call that a waste, I think that project came out amazing with the theme! Witcher next?

s000m · Friday at 10:21 AM

KevM said:
Wouldn't call that a waste, I think that project came out amazing with the theme! Witcher next?

I dunno burning money on pinball is all a waste really

Don't you ever think just how much money you would have if it wasn't for pinball

I wanted to do a Warhammer 40k game but Holly isn't enthused at the idea.

If she's going to draw it, it's got to speak to her if you know what I mean.

I was really hoping FAST pinball would release their kit to the wider public by now. Would be a lot easier to do what I want code wise.

cmrl9 · Friday at 12:16 PM

lukewells said:
I don't have records as it is from a long time ago, but I got scammed buying a Rocky and Bullwinkle by the well known arcade scammers in Castleford, who change their business names on a regular basis and are currently using the trademarked named of an old pinball manufacturer

So I bought the machine complete, but it arrived with the playfield stripped to nothing, the right side rail missing and the coin door missing. I can't exactly remember the board situation, but the psu and flipper boards were definitely missing as I had to get Rottendog replacements of those.

This started nearly 20 years ago, so reproduction parts were not readily available for any pinball machines really, certainly not in the UK

I had to buy everything from posts, mechs, ramps, wireforms, plastics.

Some bits I remember :-

Got a plastic set from Chile pinball - the best repro plastics company there ever was - which got shut down by Wayno lawsuits

Topper and also backbox "hat mechanism" plastics from Chile pinball

Imported siderails from the US

Rottendog new boards for whatever boards were missing

Built the "save nell" mechanism from individual parts - took literally years to source everything and spend £500 probably

Got the targets from the 2005 UK pinball show (who remembers when there used to be multiple parts stalls back at the old shows?) - think I also got a NOS DMD display there for a low price of £70

Bought a scrap LW3 in the US and got the seller to just post me all the mechanisms (pop bumpers, slingshots, flipper mechs etc)

Bought the coloured wireforms from a scrap machine (cant remember where)

New ramps

Backglass from someone on this forum a few years back

So no idea what I spent in parts, maybe £2000-£2500 + the cost of the machine, so 20 years later the machine is almost worth what I spent on it

Wow I think this is definitely a gauntlet contender.

So basically in today's money £5k for a rocky and Bullwinkle

Certainly a labour of love

Pop Bumper Pete · Friday at 12:28 PM

One day I will restore this ....
So far I have replated the underplayfield assemblies

All but one piece (the stainless arch) I will have to find a reproduction
Still, cheaper than what a second had one or a Haggis

cmrl9 · Friday at 12:35 PM

mplayfield said:
I wouldn’t beat yourself up so much, you got some back when you sold it and learnt loads on the repair journey and ultimately made a pin great again, well apart from the cab art

True, I actually didn't loose that much two Michelin star dinners I suppose or 8 nights out drinking in London

It's also with a great new owner so is being appreciated

cmrl9 · Friday at 12:37 PM

s000m said:
I dunno burning money on pinball is all a waste really

Don't you ever think just how much money you would have if it wasn't for pinball

I wanted to do a Warhammer 40k game but Holly isn't enthused at the idea.

If she's going to draw it, it's got to speak to her if you know what I mean.

I was really hoping FAST pinball would release their kit to the wider public by now. Would be a lot easier to do what I want code wise.

Yeh it's amazing how much you waste on giant toys. If you said I'm I'm going to spend £4k on completing candy crush you would be laughed out the building

Asiapinball · Friday at 12:55 PM

Borrowing from George Best / WC Fields

"I spent 90 percent of my money on booze women and pinball. I wasted the rest."

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