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UKCS 2016

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Hi

Thought it best to start a new thread for 2016 and to let you know of some some changes for this year.

These changes cover the points awarded for each event and fees and have been incorporated into an updated UKCS rules which should be on the IFPA site shortly. They seem to have removed the UKCS alltogether at the mo!

Points

Following some feedback on the scoring system for UKCS, we've reviewed and have revised the points awarded for each event to try to better take into account the strength of each event.


As we know with views on WPPR, no system can be perfect but we think that the proposed change is a big improvement to make it a fairer system. However, unlike WPPR we've made sure that we haven't unduly weighted it to the stronger events so that it is still worthwhile going to any UKCS event for UKCS points.
The new system for UKCS points takes into account the number of players, IFPA ranking and IFPA rating.

In detail for those interested, the points are awarded as follows:

  • The starting point is 100 points for the winner and next placed players' points increase based on number of players (see Open points tab).
  • These points are then scaled up or down based on the number of players with 25 the standard.
  • Each players points are then awarded a bonus based on the IFPA ranking and rating for all players competing at that event.
  • Multiple Comps at same event still count as one event for UKCS purposes but have increased IFPA ranking and rating points. (For a multiple comp event, number of players is total number across all comps and IFPA ranking and rating taken from main comp).

In general, the winner of a small comp will now get a bit under 100 points whilst the winner of a larger event will get close to 150 points.

We believe this scoring system much more accurately rewards performances at different strength events and will be applied for the 2016 UKCS.


You can see this in the current UKCS standings attached after 2 events.


Fees

For 2016 onwards, we're planning to introduce a £1 contribution per each player competing at a UKCS event event during the year so it could go into a pot to fund the entry fees for the UKCS finals. This money would go towards the cost of trophies and prize monies at the UKCS finals. Indeed this is very similar to the league where the £2 fee per player goes towards the cost of trophies and certificates (as you know we don't award any prize money!)


So for 2016 events in order for an event to qualify for the UKCS, there will be a £1 charge for each player entering a UKCS event which as mentioned would go towards the UKCS finals trophies and prize monies. The organiser will be responsible for collecting the fee and passing over after the event. The only exception will be if no entrance fees are charged for the event in which case the event would be exempt from UKCS fees.


For a multi comp event where there's more than one comp over a weekend, we'd suggest only £1 per player entering either comp so for a player entering both it would only be £1 in total but would still be £1 for a player entering only one of the two comps. This is because we treat the weekend event as only one comp within the UKCS.
Of course we're too late for the Hangover and too short notice for 8 bit flip so the fee would only apply to events from April onwards.

UKCS FInals

Lastly, we're pleased to announce that the finals of the UKCS will be held at the end of January 2017 at the Arcade Club in Bury. This is a great venue as I'm sure those who went to the 8 bit flip recently will agree and very grateful to Andy for offering to host the finals here.

Cheers

Greg
 

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Here's the latest standings for the UKCS following 8 Bit Flip, David's 50th and UK Cup. A familiar look to the top 2 but special mention to high placed Oscar Evrenos currently in 5th!

Next planned event is World Cup Revisited on 7 August.

Cheers
Greg
 

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Any info on how to register for it if possible yet as it was only 32 entries last year?
Thanks
 
I think you are auto-registered if you take part in one of the main tournaments, so World Cup Revisited next, then say the UK Open, Shine, Xmas Cracker, Festive Pinball, Robot Bash, etc (that's if they are happening that is)
 
Just to clarify,
The comp will be on August 7th - at Phil's.
32 places only.
£10 entry fee
Registration will open first week in July.
It will be well publicised beforehand so no chance of it 'passing by' without it being noticed.
 
Just to clarify,
The comp will be on August 7th - at Phil's.
32 places only.
£10 entry fee
Registration will open first week in July.
It will be well publicised beforehand so no chance of it 'passing by' without it being noticed.
I apologise for my ignorance in advance ....... But where is phil's? :hmm:
 
I apologise for my ignorance in advance

Everything will be made clear nearer the time, I haven't even created the event page yet :eek:

Phil is in Leicester, but for obvious reasons I will not be publishing his home address anywhere. Once registered, if you do not already have it, I will PM people
 
Here's the latest standings for the UKCS following 8 Bit Flip, David's 50th and UK Cup. A familiar look to the top 2 but special mention to high placed Oscar Evrenos currently in 5th!

Next planned event is World Cup Revisited on 7 August.

Cheers
Greg
Are there 2 Ralph White's?
 
I've already pointed that out to Greg, I believe he's fixed it on an updated sheet, he's not the only duplicate though!
 
Everything will be made clear nearer the time, I haven't even created the event page yet :eek:
Event has been created on Facebook for the WCR 3.
Link can also be found on the diary section of Pinball News.
 
Hi

Here's the latest standings for the UKCS following World Cup revisited and the UK Open.

Next planned event is Not Another Birthday Tournament at Special When Lit on 15 October.

Cheers
Greg
 

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Why is the Classic tournament only worth half of the Open Tournament?

They both followed IDENTICAL formats with the exact same players.

I thought that pts, were based on format and no. of entries? Not arbitrarily calling one of them a side tournament?
 
Wayne

It's consistent with the rules we set up at the beginning of UKCS where if 2 tournaments take place at the same venue over the same weekend, the lesser tournament ie usually the one that is not the main event, will only count for half of the points. The two are then added together and everyone ranked as one event.

Yes points for the Classics are worked out exactly the same as the main ie based on number and quality of players but count as 50%.

See the extract from the rules on the IFPA site:

Multi Comp Events
Where an event comprises more than one competition, the results of these multiple competitions will be added together and the points system applied to the overall result. However, when adding together the points for multi comps, those awarded for side competitions will be at 50% of the calculated amount. This is to reflect the greater achievement in performing well in the main competition.

Therefore overall there are no more points available for an event where there are multiple competitions compared with an event with only one main competition. However, by collating the results of all competitions at an event, the system does take into account all these competitions and not just the main competition.
However for am multi comp event, the IFPA rating/ranking factor is uplifted to 2 rather than 1.5 for a single event and the number of players is the total number across all comps with the IFPA ranking and rating taken from the main comp.

Hope this makes it clear. We've not changed anything.

Cheers
Greg
 
Why is the Classic tournament only worth half of the Open Tournament?

They both followed IDENTICAL formats with the exact same players.

I thought that pts, were based on format and no. of entries? Not arbitrarily calling one of them a side tournament?

And attracted the same number of WPPR points.
 
Wayne

It's consistent with the rules we set up at the beginning of UKCS where if 2 tournaments take place at the same venue over the same weekend, the lesser tournament ie usually the one that is not the main event, will only count for half of the points. The two are then added together and everyone ranked as one event.

Yes points for the Classics are worked out exactly the same as the main ie based on number and quality of players but count as 50%.

See the extract from the rules on the IFPA site:

Multi Comp Events
Where an event comprises more than one competition, the results of these multiple competitions will be added together and the points system applied to the overall result. However, when adding together the points for multi comps, those awarded for side competitions will be at 50% of the calculated amount. This is to reflect the greater achievement in performing well in the main competition.

Therefore overall there are no more points available for an event where there are multiple competitions compared with an event with only one main competition. However, by collating the results of all competitions at an event, the system does take into account all these competitions and not just the main competition.
However for am multi comp event, the IFPA rating/ranking factor is uplifted to 2 rather than 1.5 for a single event and the number of players is the total number across all comps with the IFPA ranking and rating taken from the main comp.

Hope this makes it clear. We've not changed anything.

Cheers
Greg

That sounds like a throw back to the old rules where side tournaments were 50% and points added together, which is no longer the case!
 
We haven't changed the rules for UKCS and was exactly the same applied to Big Flip/Old Flip earlier in the year! UKCS does not mirror WPPR but we did revise UKCS for 2016 to try to more accurately reflect the difficulty in doing well in a competition with more and better players.
 
Here's the latest standings for the UKCS following Not Another Birthday Tournament held at Special When Lit. Was waiting for results to be updated on the IFPA site in order to get the ratings for the event which have now finally been posted.

Minimal change to top 20 with exception of

Big movers were:
Nick Baster Sibey up 12 to 9
Nick Hamill up 16 to 21
Andrew Wilson up 12 to 36
Lukasz Dziewulski up 27 to 40
Tim Thornton up 43 to 43

Next UKCS comp is Shine Charity on Sun 27th at Tilt in Birmingham.

Note that the UKCS will now be based on best 7 events since we will have 11 events this year (as per rules on IFPA site).

Cheers
Greg
 

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Hi

I've updated the UKCS standings for Shine and Christmas Cracker but please note that these are not the final points for these 2 comps as I need to get the ratings from the IFPA site once the results have gone live there. So they should give you a good idea but as I say the points will change a bit once I've got the correct IFPA ratings (have estimated for mo).

Some significant changes in top 20:

David Dodds up 11 to 10
Nick Marshall up 7 to 11

Other big movers:

Aid Cooper up 63 to 23
Kate up 33 to 28
Ross Hamilton up 67 to 32

Remember best 7 events count. Last 2 events are Festive Gathering at Special When Lit this coming weekend and Robot Bash at mine on 30th Dec.

Cheers
Greg
 

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Latest standings following the Festive Pinball Gathering. Only one event to go - Robot Bash on 30th.

A bit of rejigging in top 20 but main movers are:

Mike Kindler up 11 to 22
Andrew Wilson up 19 to 27
Kev Donovan up 34 to 29
Tim Raison up 42 to 36.

Still a chance for anyone in top 30 to make the top 20 cut for the finals in Feb.

Cheers
Greg
 

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Greg, Richard's just pointed out to me that you have the result for the festive gathering the wrong way round... He (Rich) won the main on Sunday with Mike in second place...! :rolleyes:
 
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