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Seeking training/mentor to learn pinball repair skills (ideally somewhere in the North!)

rosflip

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Hi All,

Might be a bit of an odd request, but I'm keen to learn more about all things related to pinball repair. I wonder if there's anyone out there who would be willing to act as a mentor on this - maybe you have a repair project on the go and could use a spare pair of hands, or maybe someone has a 'project' machine for sale and I could purchase the machine and help with repair work if you know how to do it. I'm not sure - I'm very open-minded and open to anything that will help me learn!

I'm willing to pay someone for their time also, if someone has the expertise and they'd be willing to just teach!

If anything like this sounds remotely of interest, please do let me know.

Thanks!

Ros
 
Hi All,

Might be a bit of an odd request, but I'm keen to learn more about all things related to pinball repair. I wonder if there's anyone out there who would be willing to act as a mentor on this - maybe you have a repair project on the go and could use a spare pair of hands, or maybe someone has a 'project' machine for sale and I could purchase the machine and help with repair work if you know how to do it. I'm not sure - I'm very open-minded and open to anything that will help me learn!

I'm willing to pay someone for their time also, if someone has the expertise and they'd be willing to just teach!

If anything like this sounds remotely of interest, please do let me know.

Thanks!

Ros
Hi Ros,

What a shame you're not in London, or you could join my home ed group! :)

I don't want to volunteer @AlanJ, but he's in Leeds and has been absolutely exceptional in helping us with our technical problems and my very slow Alien Poker restoration. Not sure if he wants the help/company though. If in doubt, you could always advertise for a project machine, post a shop log thread, and people will be along to teach you 'on the job' :)

I have my Alien Poker cab filled and mostly primed now, and I knew nothing about carpentry going into the project.

Vee
 
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Hi Ros
Not a strange request at all, I have wanted the very same thing myself for ages. The only way I deal with it is that every time something needs doing, I try to do it myself. I get help of course, either here on the forum or through friends I’ve made here on the forum or at meets over the years. Even in the last few months there’s a few new things I’ve learned that I never knew before. I am now confident to replace and fix coin door switches, flatten raised playfield inserts, and electrocute myself repeatedly.

You have to learn to use a multimeter. You have to learn to solder. You have to be willing to research and learn some electrical and electronic basics. Buy some (imperial) tools and ask away. They will help you as they always do. I can help with the simpler stuff.

Sadly I think you’re 30 years late to offer yourself as a free learn-on-the-job apprentice, all the pro fixers nowadays won’t want to be slowed down teaching unless you paid them some serious cash. There used to be hundreds of them, nowadays there’s not so many left. But all the ones I know are top men. Who? Top. Men.

Good luck. It’s fun to learn.

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Hi Ros
Not a strange request at all, I have wanted the very same thing myself for ages.

Yes, not a strange request. I wanted to do the same, shortly after we started out in pinball. I emailed Robin (who was doing the repairs at PBR at the time) and asked if I could shadow him while he was doing repairs :)

I even came into PBR as a volunteer while Robin wasn’t there, and valiantly, erm, CHANGED A LIGHTBULB (on an MM). Whahay! And, then, I found a High Speed with a fault that needed soldering and had no idea what I was supposed to do, because I’d never used a soldering iron before. @Mike Parkins was very kind and patient with me, despite the fact I was f****g hopeless and probably less useful than if I hadn’t been there.

Ah, those innocent days back in 2021 (or so).

The only way I deal with it is that every time something needs doing, I try to do it myself. I get help of course, either here on the forum or through friends I’ve made here on the forum or at meets over the years.

Yeah, we’ve never hired a pintech. I keep trying to, every time we get really stuck and a pin is out of action for weeks, but the people who do this professionally are really, really busy as there aren’t many of them about. It’s also the case that, when I did shadow an arcade pintech (for about half an hour on holiday in Whitby) he pointed out that most faults that pins spawn in the wild are dead easy to identify and fix - wire came loose, snapped slingshot rubber, that sort of thing. Whereas when I notice we have faults, they’re stuff like ‘the pin had a simple fault, but it’s wired back to front because it’s Spanish, and - when the wiring got checked in the process of fixing that fault - it turned out to have three other complex electrical faults, including not actually being earthed’. And, I only notice those faults because I’ve already failed to fix them myself, asked @MadMonzer to fix them, and he’s on his third weekend of spending eight hours a day failing to fix them either.

If a ribbon cable comes loose, I’m like “p**s, it’s that again”, lift the playfield, stick the cable back in and bob’s your uncle - fault fixed and forgotten.

You have to learn to use a multimeter. You have to learn to solder. You have to be willing to research and learn some electrical and electronic basics. Buy some (imperial) tools and ask away. They will help you as they always do. I can help with the simpler stuff.
You also need to have confidence in your ability :) Because ability is fractal - like, you can have some ability, and still think you’re utter crap :)

I always think I’m absolute trash at repairing pins because I’m struggling, slowly, through a full restoration job with not a flaming clue what I’m doing and - as per previous - I delegate all the complex electrical faults to @MadMonzer because I struggle with understanding wiring diagrams. HOWEVER, I recently advertised for a pin on here, and a couple of people were like “oh, it’s had all this workshopping done on it”. So, I check, and it’s had the top surface stripped, cleaned, re-rubbered, etc. And I’m like “Nah, that’s not shopping a pin. I’ve done that on two different B/W pins already. To *properly* workshop a pin, you have to redecal/restencil the cab and do an entire playfield swap.”

So, my calibration might be a bit off…

But all the ones I know are top men. Who? Top. Men.

Can I add the inevitable disclaimer about women being able to repair pinball machines here, please? :P (if we can lift the d*mn playfield up)
 
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Yes I’m nearby in Leeds, so willing to help.

An alternative is to just learn on a “need to know” basis. I.e. if you have an issue with one of your pins, and don’t know how to resolve it, post a thread on here and you’ll get all the help you need. If the solution is way outside your current skill level then get in some help. Complex electronic board fault finding and repair are probably something best left to others initially.

Firstly assess your starting point.
What tools do you possess?
What additional tools do you think you need?
can you solder?
Can you use a DMM?
Can you read and understand a schematic?
What skills do you have that you think might be relevant to pinball repair and maintenance?

A good way to meet local pinheads is to join the Northern Pinball League. https://www.pinballleague.uk/
 
I owned my first pin in 2019 and knew absolutely nothing about how they worked.

I wouldn't say I ever wanted to be a pin-tech, and not do I pretend to be one. But over the years I've learnt on a need to know basis, like what Alan says.

By owning a pin you'll naturally have to fix faults. I was lucky my first two games were mostly faultless on arrival. But I am incredibly OCD (for want of a better term) and I notice the most mundane issues most people over look. So I was happy to fiddle with my games pretty early on.

I remember within a few weeks of owning my first pin @MajesticPinball came over and I asked him to solder a wire onto a lamp socket and later apply one tiny square piece of mylar.

I was terrified of a soldering iron 🤣.

Over time you gain confidence fixing more issues and learn from them. Having this forum and the people on it also helps greatly. I have had so much help with electronic issues I can't fathom and usually i come away having learnt something. Alan has been invaluable over the years with helping me diagnose board issues.
There are some issues that are so deep ill probably never figure them out without shotgunning multiple components.

I can fix probably 75% of board issues myself now. But there are times where I'll spend it off to someone like @Nevin who will diagnose and fix it in a matter of hours, if that 😆 when I have a lot of games and things to do sometimes it's just better to pay someone to deal with issues like that.
Board issues are the only time I'll pay someone to repair one of my pins.

I know people differ, but I've always had an interest in how things work, I used to dismantle toys as a child 🤣
I think that helped, plus I had to learn quick with how our collection has grown. In 4 years we've had over 50 different games come in and out of our house so if I was paying someone I'd be broke 😄

When we started helping at The Pinball Office i remember a few people asking if I could teach them how to repair the games so they could help. I didn't take them up on this offer and instead would show people when issues crop up.
You can't really teach someone how to repair pins because they're so vast, you have physical issues with mechs, then you have the electronic side and the deeper electronic side on the boards.
That's why I agree with Alan with the "need to know " basis. You pick up things as you repair, which often help you get an understanding of how other parts work.

Most of the people on this forum are extremely helpful when it comes to fault finding and pin repairs. I've known so many people here and on FB to help people nearby if they're stuck. It is a wonderful hobby and where possible I try to pay it forward with my local pin friends.

Bit long winded but I hope you know what I'm getting at 😀 if you own pins you'll likely have to do minor fixes at some point.
I know there are some people who have no interest at all in repairing games and will wait till there's more issues and then pay for one of the fantastic pinball techs we have.
 
I had a friend a few years back show a lot of interest in pinball repairs and he started to come to the workshop with me to learn bits. He eventually got overwhelmed by it and then ended up moving north to start a new life and a new job etc. I've had 5 or 6 people contact me over the years asking to be an apprentice of sorts and I'm busy enough to need one, I just don't have the time to go through all of that unfortunately.

As many others have done find yourself a project pin that isn't too daunting, a game that boots and flips but just has a few issues is a great place to start. Work your way through it, the manuals and schematics are invaluable learning tools. Watch different mechs and see how they work, get comfortable and take things apart etc. You'll learn an incredible amount as you go 👍🏻
 
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