Pinball collection power usage

[Julian Hepworth]

Does anyone have/ can point me at power usage data for large-ish (30+) pinball machine collections.
Are people with these on 3 phase or 1 ?
I think the max I can get is 20KVA 100A single as 3 phase hasn't made it up the valley yet - it will be a new connection.

I assume it's a calc based on max number on concurrently x average power usage (between attract and multiball ?)
Are arcades 3 phase ?

Thank you
Julian

 

[cyberkryten]

I doubt it is average that's your or what you need to think about (unless you'll only ever be playing one at a time).

The issue is concurrent peak draw - if you press the flippers on all machines at the same time, whilst other coils are firing then the usage will be way higher than average.

After last year's UK Open, I'm sure Neil can tell you how many **not** to run off one connection

 

[Paul]

@Poibug only because he knows his Shi and has lots of practical experience on this

 

[AlanJ]

you deffo won’t need 3 phase. single phase will be plenty.

 

[Fubar]

Stern manuals state 500W peak power (during play). Much less in attract mode of course.

30 * 500W is 15KW so you should be ok with 100A I think? Depends what else you've got running - aircon etc.

 

[DAFlippers]

Single phase. You have to be very careful with 3 phase as you have ~400v between phases and units powered on different phases would need safety notices at the very least.

David

 

[Julian Hepworth]

Stern manuals state 500W peak power (during play). Much less in attract mode of course.

30 * 500W is 15KW so you should be ok with 100A I think? Depends what else you've got running - aircon etc.

That fits - I had at the back of my mind 2A, which i guess is 500W/230V ish. Yep I think other draws will be potentially be heat source pump and some sort of MVHR.
Thx

 

[Julian Hepworth]

I doubt it is average that's your or what you need to think about (unless you'll only ever be playing one at a time).

The issue is concurrent peak draw - if you press the flippers on all machines at the same time, whilst other coils are firing then the usage will be way higher than average.

After last year's UK Open, I'm sure Neil can tell you how many **not** to run off one connection

Intriguing - what happened there ? Things trip or melt ?

 

[Julian Hepworth]

Single phase. You have to be very careful with 3 phase as you have ~400v between phases and units powered on different phases would need safety notices at the very least.

David

Thx - in the absence of any 3 phase equipment, could you use 3 phase to get 3 x single power but would have to be very careful to make sure it was separated ? Not that it's relevant for this , but I'm curious.

 

[Matt Adams]

I have had 25 pins plus other shiz running all day from a board in my arcade with a 63A main breaker fed with 16mm cable so I think you'll be fine

 

[AlanJ]

i had 12 pins set up in my garage all running off one 13a socket on daisy chained 4 way extensions. i had a two day party when they were all in use at times and no issues at all.

 

[Fantazia2]

i had 12 pins set up in my garage all running off one 13a socket on daisy chained 4 way extensions. i had a two day party when they were all in use at times and no issues at all.

 

[M4carp]

My dad put B&H ciggy foil around fuses and that worked