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Novice Logic

Sam C

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I'm sure we can all relate to this, but I thought it would be interesting to hear other people's stories. Where you play a game with someone who doesn't really understand how pinball works and you can understand where the logic is, but it still doesn't make a lot of sense.

So last night I'm showing my mum Attack from Mars ("Haha I like all the humor, it's very stereotypical" and "Why do all Americans think that all English people are from south London?") and we're doing a 2 player game. I end my go on ball 2. "No you keep going." "What, why? It's your go." "But you're doing so well!" "But I've finished, it's the end of my turn, now it's yours." "But my score is terrible, it will ruin yours!" "What how does that make sense?" "Just take my go!" "No, its your go!" eventually...."Ohhhh, I thought it was like we were playing together."

Taught her not to double flip all the time as well "Why do you do that?" "Well...that's just natural." "Ah okay, well you have to teach yourself that it isn't natural and generally will end up with you losing the ball if you do it a lot." Eventually after losing the ball a few times this way (Double flipped, ball hit the flipper tip and went straight down the middle) she worked it out and immediately improved. Was well chuffed with herself for making multiball and nearly 1 billion.

Also she's deadly afraid of the knocker and despite me trying to explain it only happens on replays, specials and matches she still doesn't know when its going to happen and jumps out her skin every time. "Turn it off!" "Nooo, its too funny."

I also had a friend with me at a league meet who kept plunging the ball despite the fact we were playing a 3 player game. It was on an old Bally Playboy where I admit for people who don't know the older machines would have no idea what to look at to discern whos go it is (I mostly at this point step in and tell them their go is over, but I think I was talking to someone else). I think @Wayne J put it best when it happened "Oh he's just taken my ball." "Well how would he know not to? He never plays pinball!"

You can tell I'm bored at work :D

Anyone else got any?
 
Press the Credit button 4 times (at least) to start a game (at NLP) :tut:
 
Play one ball and walk away or start a 4 player game and walk away

Or not pressing the start button at all, as I had last night "Where's the ball?" "You need to start a game." "Where's the ball????" "Press the start button." "Wheres that?" "The only blinking light on the front that says START." "Ahhh."
 
"The only blinking light on the front that says START." "Ahhh."

I had to have the Start button pointed out to me on Black Knight when I first played it. At the time I wasn't used to Williams games, with the button placed on the left alongside the front door, plus on that game it was semi-concealed to the newcomer by being at the hilt of a sword in the artwork.

Later, at an arcade in Porthcawl, a lad wasted a few credits somehow left on Meteor by starting it up, playing one ball, then pushing the start button again, as it "makes the ball come out".
 
Nudging is cheating :hmm:

Judge Dredd can be a funny one to watch people figuring out how to launch the ball
 
When niece/nephew/friends kids visit .....they pester me like crazy to switch on the games, within 2 minutes all games are sitting in some sort of mid game 4 player state with a ball in the shooter lane :rolleyes: Within 10 mins they have had enough and buggered off.
I can totally relate to that.
 
I played my father in law just once. He's keenly competitive (tennis, bridge, golf) - but not at all non-tech minded, so..

I have a great first ball. I get one ball locked and another loads. I keep playing and then win an extra ball. Finally pa-in-law gets his turn. It doesn't last long but now he refuses to let go of the machine and insists playing my second ball:

"NO it can't be your go that's not fair. You played three balls in a row so I'm having the next three."
 
I thought nudging was cheating till I went to a meet ( a part of me still does, why have a tilt mech :hmm:)
 
When my mates (who play pinball very rarely) play on judge dredd, I always tell them the ball will ping round the loop and you need to be ready. Inevitably they launch the ball and just stare at it and watch it go SDTM even though you have like 2 or 3 seconds to react.

Next ball the same thing...

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me
 
Watching people lose their last ball and still insist on pressing the flippers as the machine kicks out any balls that may have been locked, wondering why the flippers don't work anymore.
 
I have an elderly(ish) relative that visits and likes to play my pins. I go first and she closely observes the (very) limited skills and techniques I display for trapping, passing etc then not only mimics but betters them's with her ball - grrrrrr good on the old gal :D
 
My friend came round and played his first ever game of pinball. He launched a ball, then just watched the DMD avidly as though that was where the action was, the ball just hit a few random things and drained. When I told him it was my turn he said "but i haven't done anything yet!". Priceless.
 
I told some people this week that one of my hobbies was pinball. One guy (early 20s Indian guy) didn't know what a pinball machine was.
 
Watching people lose their last ball and still insist on pressing the flippers as the machine kicks out any balls that may have been locked, wondering why the flippers don't work anymore.

I once owned a Firepower where the flipper relay (and the 'Special' solenoids) were continually enabled due to some damaged chips on the driver board. So it was possible to knock the balls cleared at Game Over around for a while.

One instance that amused me was after a young teen had thrashed away with all four flippers at once throughout a (short) game on Spy Hunter - when the game ended with a dismal points total, he continued to press the buttons before finally realising it was all over, then happened to look up at the backglass as the originally-set Highest Score of exactly 6,500,000 was displayed. It was all I could do not to laugh at the comment "Oh, I got top score".

Also, I'd played that SH, and knew that the knocker worked. So did some young women playing whatever video or fruit m/c was alongside, who laughed whenever it sounded. I wondered if they knew I'd have to play the poorly-rated pin again, or thought I was farting.
 
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Novice or Numpty time?
A few years back I had a voicemail from a local operator who was selling a Pinball. He said it was a BS Dracula.
As I had a poor signal (hence the voicemail) I went in search of a landline phone to phone him back.
Usually you want to do this type of thing in private and not a works phone but... didn't want a missed opportunity.
Made my way back to the Engineering workshop and bingo! No-one there.
Quickly pressing the numbers on the phone and soon the deal was done. During the call a few of my colleagues came back to the workshop and I couldn't really disguise the fact of what I was up to.
As the seller only wanted £250 I got a bit excited and stuttered I'd be there straight after work.
So I proudly announced that I'd just bagged a classic at a very good price.
The response from one guy was " I don't know you bother buying pinballs, it's cheaper and easier to make your own. It's only a few wires and some bulbs"
 
" I don't know you bother buying pinballs, it's cheaper and easier to make your own. It's only a few wires and some bulbs"

Absolute understatement of the century right there.

I had a friend curious about building one once. Once he found out he would need to be a graphic designer, programmer, artist and have the skills and equipment to manufacture all the parts his enthusiasm dissipated somewhat. Shame really!
 
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