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Moving machines around more easily

cyberkryten

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After having spent the time moving machines around with (ie for) Josh, I’m just wondering if I’m missing some tools/tricks to make it easier. My arms/back are definitely reminding me I’m not getting any younger today

I have a Cosco sack truck which is great for moving machines once they are tombstoned and I’ve got a wheelchair ramp which makes getting them in and out of the house a lot easier than when I originally did it using ‘borrowed’ scaffolding planks!

However, every time I use it, I get huge bruises on my forearms. These are from where the machine rests on my arms while I grip the handles and it bangs into my arms over rougher ground and going on/off the ramp lip so I was thinking of trying to find a couple of archery forearm protectors to stop that happening (or some foam arms from a Sumo suit!), unless anyone has better solutions?


Just ordered a scissor lift to help with setup/adjustments and moving in out of the lineup in each room, but I still need to figure out a way of getting tombstoned pins on and off it - has anyone built one of the pin rotator/lift systems like this:

https://www.jeff-z.com/pinball/lift/index.html
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-to-move-a-pinball-machine-alone/page/2#post-3845705

The big lift cradle piece with a curved edge looks like it could be really useful, but my woodworking skills are not something I'd trust a pin to, so if anyone fancies a commission who's good with wood, let me know!

Even once I've sorted that, I can’t move machines from the rooms to the hallway on the platform horizontally as the hallway isn’t wide enough to take a pin lengthways so I need a better way of getting them in/out of the rooms between carpet and tiled floors - this has to be whilst tombstoned and is one of the most time consuming (and back breaking) parts of moving pins around as they have to be pushed slowly through the doorway whilst tombstoned with about one centimetre clearance.

Furniture sliders aren't working well (they're great on the tiled floors, but not on carpet). Might try a long piece of MDF so I can put the pin on it and push it across the wood, or some metal rods to run like an ancient style log roller system.

Failing that, I've found some lengths of "gravity conveyor rollers" and I guess something like that might work (but also may badly scratch the tiles and make me very unpopular)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/17571397...uid=PcWdNf1MS9m&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Anyone got other suggestions as I need to find a way to move pins between mine and Josh's far more easily than last time.
 
Are you coming to pinfest Martyn? If you're there at the begining and the end you'll see lots of us using our tried and tested methods of moving pins about and getting them on and off hydraulic lifts :) . I personally use a hydraulic lift from the side of the pin rather than the front which works well if your lift isn't one of the really long ones. Easy to pull a tombstoned pin on and off it with it side on.
 
Anyone got other suggestions as I need to find a way to move pins between mine and Josh's far more easily than last time.

yes, put your feet up and get Josh to move them all for you..! :thumbs:

P.S. forearm bruises are a pinball movers badge of honor...! 🤣
 
I was feeling sorry for you Martyn and those badges of honour. Phil beat me to it... the P handle is what you need for moving machines. I don't like them personally but they can have their advantages such as no bruises!
 
I was wondering how Martyn was getting those bruises, I've had 2 sack trucks and moved tons of machines on them without getting beaten up, makes sense now if the sack truck is too short or the handles in the wrong place.
 
My latest technique is tried and tested and works great everytime.
I get 2 of my mates to do everything for me as the extreme back problems I’ve been having recently makes it near impossible to do it on my own now.
I love my Costco trolley and it’s served me well but I feel your pain as they not easy to lever over especially if you 10st dripping wet like me.
The older you get the harder this hobby becomes especially when moving pins that’s for sure.
You can also watch my technique at pinfest where I point my finger to where the pins need to go 😝
 
Are you coming to pinfest Martyn? If you're there at the begining and the end you'll see lots of us using our tried and tested methods of moving pins about and getting them on and off hydraulic lifts :) . I personally use a hydraulic lift from the side of the pin rather than the front which works well if your lift isn't one of the really long ones. Easy to pull a tombstoned pin on and off it with it side on.

Yep, I'll be there so will take plenty of notes!



yes, put your feet up and get Josh to move them all for you..! :thumbs:

Haha, if only!!


Oh! Those mystery forearm bruises make sense now!
;)


Use a sack truck that has a central p shape handle it should also have a long back.

I was feeling sorry for you Martyn and those badges of honour. Phil beat me to it... the P handle is what you need for moving machines. I don't like them personally but they can have their advantages such as no bruises!

Ah, OK, that one looks taller, but there's no measurement on the page - I assume it fits under a pin?

The Cosco one is adjustable as sack truck, angled and can be used as a flat truck, which I thought would be useful for moving machines around, but in reality I just use it as an upright sack truck.

I can see the advantage of a longer one both in protecting my arms and leverage, but one handle isn't going to work for the risky 'over the threshold onto the ramp' manoeuvre I have to do at the doorstep every time a machine comes in or out of the house!
 
I had a smaller sack truck and after Swavesey last year I had the bruises for a couple weeks.
Got the above P handle sack truck and it's been ideal. One hand on the top of the pin and other on the P. It works ok for going into the house but I can see how a two handle truck makes steps much easier.

I'd love one of those hydraulic lifts but I don't have the space to use it.
I pop furniture feet/cups with sliders on under the levellers and I can slide the games out. You've still got to get them there which involves the turtling 😑
 
I can see the advantage of a longer one both in protecting my arms and leverage, but one handle isn't going to work for the risky 'over the threshold onto the ramp' manoeuvre I have to do at the doorstep every time a machine comes in or out of the house!
Rebuilding the doorstep might be the easy answer... tell the missus that it's to allow disabled access, which will help with pin moving as a bonus spin off...!
 
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