Inserts......advice please

[Mooseman]

As some are aware im stripping and working on a black knight 2000. All the mylar and glue is off and has caused virtually no damage.
The insert though are as rough looking as the bears wotsits. It looks like some clearcoat type stuff has reacted with the mylar and caused the bubbling.
Im left with the majority of insert decals in good condition but the inserts themselves are like the surface of the moon with pits and craters and dont look pretty.
i dont want to remove the inserts as that may be beyond my evpertise at the mo. I am contemplating trying to smooth off the insert with maybe a dremel to get them smooth then add new decals.
what do peeps think?
does it sound like a plan or stoopid idea?
The inserts look dull at the mo and pretty ugly. I should of taken a pic to show you all.

 

[cooldan]

I should of taken a pic to show you all.

yes. come back with pictures

 

[ronsplooter]

Trying to level the inserts while in the pf (using a dremel or sandpaper) is a recipe for disaster IMO. Your better off taking them out and flattening them, then glue them back in place. Try getting hold of BiffBoff either on here or on the Yahoo group as he has experience of this when he did his BK2K.

 

[Mooseman]

Yep I know john, he was doing bk2k when i bought his ss. I will ask his advice. How easy is insert removal and replacing? The inserts are level in the playfield they just have this pitted layer of what im guessing is a type of clearcoat protection. In work and very busy at the mo, pics to follow.

 

[replicas]

The correct way would be to warm up each insert and tap them out then sand them down with wet + dry starting with 320 and finally get less and less to 1500.
Then with a polish wheel buff them back up, then re-insert and hold them in with a spot of super glue.

I have heard of someone building the damaged insert up with superglue then once hardened finely sanded down then buffed, this can be done without removing the insert but you have to be very careful. you would need to mask the area surrounding each insert. Painstaking and a nightmare of a job.

On a game with so many inserts like Black Knight it will be a killer of a job whichever way you go.
Good luck on which ever way you go with and I am sorry I could not come up with a quick easy fix.
D.

 

[RudeDogg1]

think epoxy is the glue of choice lately because super glue has very little flex

 

[Wizcat]

I have exactly same issue on the Police Force I'm restoring. Pretty certain it's where the Mylar has lifted up the clear coat over the inserts.

I think if you are planning on removing the inserts, then first cut around them with a sharp scalpel, otherwise there might be a chance of chipping the clear coat on the surrounding playfield when removing.

What I've been doing is just scratching away the clear from the inserts, using the flat end of a small screwdriver. The result isn't very smooth, but its better than what it was. Further down the line I'm planning to clear over the playfield again (and when clearing over inserts you don't want them silky smooth, otherwise the clear doesn't adhere). After a layer of clear I'll then apply insert decals and clear again.

That's my thinking anyhow!

 

[Mooseman]

Live with it or lengthy fix??
Ive promised to take this to a wedding in a months time so think live with it may be my best option at the mo.
pop the buggers out tho does seem to be the fix. Ive watched a few vids now and perhaps me and a big mallet can do this in the future

 

[replicas]

Live with it or lengthy fix??
Ive promised to take this to a wedding in a months time so think live with it may be my best option at the mo.
pop the buggers out tho does seem to be the fix. Ive watched a few vids now and perhaps me and a big mallet can do this in the future

Go for it Moose, Its not as hard as you might think.

 

[Calimori]

If is not ready you can always bring AC/DC. :rockon:
Go for it, you can do it, you have tackled other tasks to this point.

 

[Mooseman]

After a good de glue clean and polish i think i can live with the inserts for now.

 

[Carl Spiby]

Looking good.

 

[ronsplooter]

Cleaned up nicely that has :thumb:

 

[cooldan]

finally some pics Mr Moose

 

[Mooseman]

I prefer yours cool D