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http://www.ifpapinball.com:8000/wc/ifpa_wc_results.php
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IFPA 10 In Germany
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96 points is normally the cut off point, so come on boys, you can do it. 
Gremany was better
7 points for a win 5 for 2nd. 3 for 3rd and 1 for last
Gremany was better
7 points for a win 5 for 2nd. 3 for 3rd and 1 for last
currently Martin is in 37th, Craig 52nd, Greg 55th at the half way point.
this is when i wish we had a live TV/internet feed
this is when i wish we had a live TV/internet feed
The boys all did awesome in rounds 5 and 6, currently Martin and Craig are both above the cutoff point, and Greg is only 4 points below it.
Total of 8 qualifying rounds so 2 to go.
Total of 8 qualifying rounds so 2 to go.
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it aint going to easy to qualify for the Brits, see who they play.
http://www.ifpapinball.com/ifpa10/rules
http://www.ifpapinball.com/ifpa10/rules
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all to do in the final round, Greg and Martin are in the same group, both of them need 2 1st's and a 2nd, Craig is in a group of death .
Results are in. Craig just made it, the other two just missed out
Actually there's five of them in 31st so I think they have to play off?
In the event that two or more players are tied on either the qualifying bubble or a potential bye, such that not all of the tied players can advance to the final rounds or receive the bye, a tiebreaking procedure will be utilized. A single game will be played on a machine randomly selected by tournament officials from the qualifying bank of games. Tournament officials will draw one ‘OLD’, one ’MID’ and one ’NEW’ machine at random.
The players tied on the qualifying/bye bubble will be asked to vote by secret ballot for which game they would like to play. The game with the most votes will be the game used for the tie-breaker game. If two or three machines receive the same number of votes, the players will vote again from the machines that are tied from the original voting. If after the second round of voting there is still a tie, the game will be chosen at random from those three by tournament officials. The tied players will play, in randomly determined order, in a multi-player game on the selected machine, and will subsequently be ranked in the order of their scores on that game. If more players are tied than the selected machine will support in a single game, multiple games will be played to accommodate all tied players, in randomly determined order, and the resulting scores will be compared as if they had occurred in a single game on the same machine. This tie-breaking procedure is used to determine which players advance to the finals, and which players are eliminated. However, this one-game playoff will not affect the seeding of the tied players that do advance. The tied players that do advance will be ranked according to the methods of players not on the qualifying bubble (see next paragraph).
In the event that two or more players are tied on either the qualifying bubble or a potential bye, such that not all of the tied players can advance to the final rounds or receive the bye, a tiebreaking procedure will be utilized. A single game will be played on a machine randomly selected by tournament officials from the qualifying bank of games. Tournament officials will draw one ‘OLD’, one ’MID’ and one ’NEW’ machine at random.
The players tied on the qualifying/bye bubble will be asked to vote by secret ballot for which game they would like to play. The game with the most votes will be the game used for the tie-breaker game. If two or three machines receive the same number of votes, the players will vote again from the machines that are tied from the original voting. If after the second round of voting there is still a tie, the game will be chosen at random from those three by tournament officials. The tied players will play, in randomly determined order, in a multi-player game on the selected machine, and will subsequently be ranked in the order of their scores on that game. If more players are tied than the selected machine will support in a single game, multiple games will be played to accommodate all tied players, in randomly determined order, and the resulting scores will be compared as if they had occurred in a single game on the same machine. This tie-breaking procedure is used to determine which players advance to the finals, and which players are eliminated. However, this one-game playoff will not affect the seeding of the tied players that do advance. The tied players that do advance will be ranked according to the methods of players not on the qualifying bubble (see next paragraph).
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Good game for Craig... fingers crossed
Peter how did you know it was Dracula?
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35 th for Craig 
Crossed posts with Stan there Wishing Craig good luck, hit post and then saw Stan's reply. Unlucky Craig, Martin and Greg.....it was a valiant effort!
Wishing Craig good luck, hit post and then saw Stan's reply. Unlucky Craig, Martin and Greg.....it was a valiant effort!
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not many Americans made it through though, tough format at IFPA, 15 hrs on the first day.
It's not 15 hours of solid play, more like 30 mins play then an hour or so waiting for all the other games to finish (due to repairs or long ball times) then repeat... 
It is one of the toughest pinball competitions on the planet though, due to the standard of the players involved and the use of 3 eras of machines. 
It's easy to have all your good work undone on a totally random EM... 
Been there done that and got the T-shirt (well a few actually)...! Very fustrating been 5th reserve for IFPA10.
It is one of the toughest pinball competitions on the planet though, due to the standard of the players involved and the use of 3 eras of machines. It's easy to have all your good work undone on a totally random EM... Been there done that and got the T-shirt (well a few actually)...! Very fustrating been 5th reserve for IFPA10.
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not to worry Pete, your a shoe-in for next year.
It's not 15 hours of solid play, more like 30 mins play then an hour or so waiting for all the other games to finish (due to repairs or long ball times) then repeat...
Thats pinball
Thats why I like EM's
That's why I dislike EMs
not to worry Pete, your a shoe-in for next year.
Hope so, I better start saving for Denver!
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So that's all over then... Good bit of entertainment for a few days. Shame about the Brits, but good effort, there's a skillful set of folks out there to beat.
Was speaking with some of the guys a while who had the idea of making the UK Open more of a standalone event, moving away from the 6 machine qualification idea. Could be at a show, but wouldn't have to be.
Could be a full 2-day tournament. Been to a few events like the IFPA now (including the IFPA) and if you like dedicated tournaments (as opposed to just being a sideshow), it's a buzz.
Key point is to give entrants a full days meaningful competition, regardless of ability, and you have to work long and hard for the finals. As always, value for money for all.
It didn't happen in the end as the general consensus was that the UK scene wasn't ready.
But I think the LPC showed that it is, competitor-wise at least.
Would need a venue, games and support. Would be nice to televise it on the web and move UK tournament play to another level.
Throwing it out there for comment...what do you think?
Was speaking with some of the guys a while who had the idea of making the UK Open more of a standalone event, moving away from the 6 machine qualification idea. Could be at a show, but wouldn't have to be.
Could be a full 2-day tournament. Been to a few events like the IFPA now (including the IFPA) and if you like dedicated tournaments (as opposed to just being a sideshow), it's a buzz.
Key point is to give entrants a full days meaningful competition, regardless of ability, and you have to work long and hard for the finals. As always, value for money for all.
It didn't happen in the end as the general consensus was that the UK scene wasn't ready.
But I think the LPC showed that it is, competitor-wise at least.
Would need a venue, games and support. Would be nice to televise it on the web and move UK tournament play to another level.
Throwing it out there for comment...what do you think?
I'd be up for it, would love to have a full day's play instead of my usual six games before elimination. At the IFPA everyone played 8 rounds each on 3 games (against 3 other people) so even us numpty bumpties would play 24 games. I'd be confident of winning at least one then!
Trouble is, as discussed recently when raised by Tim on yahoo, that it would require pretty much all the machines for the whole first day. Maybe we should plan on doing it for the next LPC, as everyone there had paid to compete.
Matt?
Trouble is, as discussed recently when raised by Tim on yahoo, that it would require pretty much all the machines for the whole first day. Maybe we should plan on doing it for the next LPC, as everyone there had paid to compete.
Matt?
A one off show/tournament is unlikely to help improve UK tournament play to another level. However, that was the idea behind creating local leagues, which haven't really taken off as much in the UK as one hoped for...!
Must say the 19 rounds of the one on one that the Germans did for 100 people last weekend worked very well...
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Who said anything about one-off? Was thinking more of improving the event, play improvement would follow later
IIRC that system was devised by Robi Sutter last year, I remember discussing it with him before going to a big event in Germany where it was first run (100+ people, but no-one came from UK, I don't think anyone knew about it). I can't remember where it was, but the location was great, it was as special one-off event setup by the PinballCenter.eu. It was a modified version of the Swiss Open in 2011. The first part is is 4-player games, in several rounds, the next part is Swiss system, which is also popular in Germany and Switzerland.Must say the 19 rounds of the one on one that the Germans did for 100 people last weekend worked very well...
It's the sort of thing I have in mind...
Just wanted to say a quick thanks for all the support and messages guys. It was an amazing experience, some incredible play and a fantastic format and well run tournament. I didn't play as well as I would have liked and to be honest was quite lucky with the way the seedings for the rounds worked out in terms of the opponents I got. Throughout Friday and Saturday i lost my ability to play on newer games for the most part, my play on the mids and especially the classics was pretty good and where I got pretty much all my points. It all comes down to such small margins when the standard is that high, and it is a real mental battle.
I wish I could have produced some form during the playoff, especially on Drac which is a game I do absolutely love and feel very comfortable on, but I just didn't play, completely bombed out, which was a shame. Overall though, a brilliant weekend, doing something that I bloody love!
Phil, what you are talking about sounds awesome, I personally think the UK really needs a tournament like the one you are talking about and I think it would attract a lot more of the top players around Europe. I also think that it would be an attractive prospect for new players to competitive pinball as at least they would get to play a lot of pinball against loads of different people, which is social and fun!
Cheers again, Craig
I wish I could have produced some form during the playoff, especially on Drac which is a game I do absolutely love and feel very comfortable on, but I just didn't play, completely bombed out, which was a shame. Overall though, a brilliant weekend, doing something that I bloody love!
Phil, what you are talking about sounds awesome, I personally think the UK really needs a tournament like the one you are talking about and I think it would attract a lot more of the top players around Europe. I also think that it would be an attractive prospect for new players to competitive pinball as at least they would get to play a lot of pinball against loads of different people, which is social and fun!
Cheers again, Craig
Is it Match Play we are talking about?