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Buying machines from other countries??

Paul

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Seems prices in Europe (Esp Germany/Italy/Latvia) are much more favourable tham here.

So - Anyone any advice to share? (Dealers that people have had successful dealing with), Shippers and prices for shipping etc etc.

Oh if only i had the money i'd go on a road trip!
 
Driving there is not much dearer than shipping.

£60 gets you + car/van to Calais, £75 in fuel and your away! (I know, I've done it 3 times).
 
Driving would be the best way, take some time off and make it a road trip. this would be most advisable as most of the machines in Europe are thrashed.
Always better to look it over before handing the cash over.
D.
 
I drive to Paris to collect a New Astro City years ago. The seller put me and my wife up in the city centre for the weekend too
 
Either way it would have to be considerably cheaper than similar in the UK for me to take the risk of sight unseen, or to make the effort to go and get it. Savin say £100/150 after all costs factored in just ain't worth the hassle in my books.

Mind you Northern France pretty easy for me living only a few miles from Newhaven ferries.
 
I shipped my FT from France, got a initial quote for £119 with DSV and thought happy days and bought the machine.
Phoned the DSV back and explained it would be packed on a small pallet upright and needed to have it's own space and the quote jumped to over £400.
The £119 was to stack it on other freight with other freight on top etc.
Finally got a £300 price off shiply, great couple of guys, brought it into the house no worries but it was a bitter pill to swallow. It made a good priced machine into a slightly overpriced one.
 
I thought it was simple for people to claim back on Paypal ?? Could be wrong but isn't that why Pin Heaven said they stopped accepting Paypal ? Too easy for people to claim they never got item and then just reverse the transaction.

Nothing is simple where paypal is involved.
 
only time ive not been refunded is when i was the seller (because they side with the buyer). I thought the buyer had pulled a fast one then the item arived back at mine a week later because royal fail couldnt find the address.
 
What happens when you pay via paypal to some johnny foreigner address and the machine takes ages to arrive at your address in this time the seller has cleaned out his paypal account and moved on. and you are left with a non working pile of c*ap if any machine at all.
Who then pays you your money back ? paypal ?
 
In those cases, PayPal push and push to track down and get the money back from the seller, with permission or not. But if the guy is long gone full on, out the country, new identity and all that. Then I believe PayPal defer it to your credit card insurance, and as a last resort, their own insurance.

they have some degree of safeguards, like needing to confirm addresses and identities for large amounts of cash, and a right to debit a sellers account without permission if things turn ugly, but pro criminals always find a way.

for the price of a pinball machine though, I don't know if they'd go the whole "new country and identity" route so PP and the authorities would get them *eventually*. For the buyer however, that will be some kind of wait before they see their money again.

Moral of the story: Just don't. :)
 
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