best Data East game?

[cooldan]

Data East games get a bad rap (rap? rep?) but i don't get it. they made plenty of great games, and ok maybe a few stinkers too, but then so did all the other major manufacturers.

So let's test this poll feature out, i've not used it before on here. Please don't get hung up on the difference between 'best game' and 'favourite game' and 'most fun game' and 'most challenging game', just pick one, ok?

actually pick 3, that will work much better if the software allows it - let's take a look.....
doh! it only allows me to have 10 options .....

ah boll_ocks, i found there were more games than i could fit in one poll. before i try my best, what was the deal with Sega? are they a continuation of DE before the whole shebang got bought up by Stern? should i include Sega in my search? there's loads of games that i considered DE that are probably Segas




obviously we can discount any games that were only made in less than 10 tables, but still that's a load of titles for a poll....


EDIT BY GRIZZ

DE Games list(Including the 4 Segas with DE boardset)

[TABLE="class: wikitable"]
[TR]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Game (Manufacture Date)[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]CPU[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Power Supply[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]PPB[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Display[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Sound[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Flipper[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F2F2F2, align: center"]Notes[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Laser War (3/87)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-01
or 520-5003-02[/TD]
[TD]520-5000-00[/TD]
[TD]Not used[/TD]
[TD]2x 7 digit A/N,
2x 7 digit N,
1x 4 digit N[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]No PCB
3 lug coil and EOS switch[/TD]
[TD]Uses 520-5001-00 Flipper Power Supply[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Secret Service (2/88)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-02[/TD]
[TD]520-5000-00[/TD]
[TD]Not used (see notes)[/TD]
[TD]2x 7 digit A/N,
2x 7 digit N[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]No PCB
3 lug coil and EOS switch[/TD]
[TD]Uses 520-5001-00 Flipper Power Supply and 520-5015-00 MRB-1 (Mega Resistor Board)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Torpedo Alley (8/88)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-02[/TD]
[TD]520-5000-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD]2x 7 digit A/N,
2x 7 digit N[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]No PCB
3 lug coil and EOS switch[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Time Machine (11/88)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-02[/TD]
[TD]520-5000-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD]2x 7 digit A/N,
2x 7 digit N[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: center"]No PCB
3 lug coil and EOS switch[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Playboy 35th
Anniversary (5/89)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-02[/TD]
[TD]520-5000-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]ABC Monday Night
Football (9/89)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-02[/TD]
[TD]520-5000-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Robocop (01/90)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-02[/TD]
[TD]520-5000-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Phantom of the Opera (4/90)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-02[/TD]
[TD]520-5000-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Back to the Future (6/90)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03[/TD]
[TD]520-5000-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]The Simpsons (10/90)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03[/TD]
[TD]520-5000-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-02[/TD]
[TD]2x 16 digit A/N
520-5030-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5002-03-12[/TD]
[TD]520-5033-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Checkpoint (2/91)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD]128x16 DMD
520-5042-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]First pinball machine with a DMD display[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Teenage Mutant
Ninja Turtles (6/91)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD]128x16 DMD
520-5042-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Batman (8/91)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD]128x16 DMD
520-5042-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Star Trek
25th Anniversary (9/91)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD]128x16 DMD
520-5042-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Hook (5/92)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD]128x16 DMD
520-5042-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Lethal Weapon 3 (8/92)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-01[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD]128x32 DMD
520-5052-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]First DE usage of 128x32 display[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Star Wars (12/92)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-01[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD]128x32 DMD
520-5052-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rocky & Bullwinkle (2/93)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-01[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-00[/TD]
[TD]128x32 DMD
520-5052-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jurassic Park (6/93)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03*[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-02[/TD]
[TD]520-5021-05[/TD]
[TD]128x32 DMD
520-5052-00[/TD]
[TD]520-5050-02[/TD]
[TD]520-5033-02[/TD]
[TD]Motor Control board mounted under playfield
Uses a shaker motor
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Last Action Hero (10/93)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03*[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-02[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]128x32 DMD
520-5052-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Uses a 520-5068-00 magnet control board
Uses a shaker motor
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tales from the Crypt (12/93)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03*[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-02[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]128x32 DMD
520-5052-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]520-5033-03[/TD]
[TD]Uses a shaker motor[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]The Who's Tommy (1/94)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03*[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-02[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]128x32 DMD
520-5052-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]520-5076-03[/TD]
[TD]Uses a servo motor board for the blinders
Uses a shaker motor
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]WWF Royal Rumble (5/94)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03*[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-02[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]128x32 DMD
520-5052-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]520-5080-00 (2 used)[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Guns N' Roses (7/94)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03*[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-02[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]128x32 DMD
520-5052-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Uses a 520-5068-00 magnet control board
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Maverick (10/94)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03*[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-03[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]192x64 DMD
520-5075-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]520-5076-00[/TD]
[TD]First usage of 'super' 192x64 display[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mary Shelly's Frankenstein (1/95)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03*[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-03[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]192x64 DMD
520-5075-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Baywatch (2/95)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03*[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-03[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]192x64 DMD
520-5075-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]520-5080-00 (2 used)[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Batman Forever (7/95)[/TD]
[TD]520-5003-03*[/TD]
[TD]520-5047-03[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]192x64 DMD
520-5075-00[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[cooldan]

ok now i pick 10 and put the poll in here.....

bah, i can't put a poll in by editing

 

[johnwhitfield]

err no poll.....

For me a choice between JP and GnR

 

[ronsplooter]

I'd say that Sega is different to DE. My top 3 are Star Wars, Tommy and Guns and Roses.

 

[Sgt GrizZ]

ah boll_ocks, i found there were more games than i could fit in one poll. before i try my best, what was the deal with Sega? are they a continuation of DE before the whole shebang got bought up by Stern? should i include Sega in my search? there's loads of games that i considered DE that are probably Segas




obviously we can discount any games that were only made in less than 10 tables, but still that's a load of titles for a poll....

I would certainly consider Maverick, Frankenstein, Baywatch and Batman Forever as DE games. Same boardset,similar backbox design. Just with the Sega name.

Once they intoduced the Whitestar baord set with apollo 13 I consider them Sega proper. I *think* around that time some of the decent DE designers, code guys left which is why the game quality started to take bit of a nosedive. Though there still are some decent Sega games.

Top 3 DE ......GnR, Tommy, Jurassic Park/Baywatch (= 3rd)

Never even played a LAH (one of the few dmds )so can't count that in my decision.

 

[cooldan]

ok i decided to just pick ten then, based on ..... well, you know. i wasn't gonna put Maverick in there, was I?

ah jeeeeeeezus boll-ocks on a bike .... i can't add a poll now, i think you can only put a poll in the first post in a thread maybe.

never mind, just look at the list and let us know what are your 3 choices. you don't have to put them in order, just pick 3




edit: GrizZ, you shoulda come along this weekend, there was a LAH there to play (John Whitfield's) and it was loads of fun. at some point John is gonna come clean about his efforts this weekend. John?

 

[ronsplooter]

Never even played a LAH (one of the few dmds )so can't count that in my decision.

There was one at the LPC so got to play it for the first time......I can't say I liked it.

 

[replicas]

G'n'R, Tommy and Tales from the crypt.

D.

 

[Replay]

TOMMY for me.

 

[jagman]

JP for me, then batman forever, can`t say i`ve played any of the others much to form an opinion

 

[Rus121]

Frankenstein, GNR, Tommy, TFTC in that order.... Although i was very surprised by batman forever,

 

[geardownthreegreens]

I've owned and played lots of william/bally machines, which yes have a very solid feel about them, but De and Sega still made a good machine IMO.
Think they were just as reliable imo and some good themes.

My first pin was owned for 2 years and was LW3,loved it...then realised it wasn't the only machine to be had...thats another story.

Like LW3, Baywatch a lot. Love Baywatch theme as love the beach and ocean. Great music and video modes and a ton of ramps, what isn't to like

 

[Sgt GrizZ]

Like LW3, Baywatch a lot. Love Baywatch theme as love the beach and ocean. Great music and video modes and a ton of ramps, what isn't to like

If you are ever near Brighton give me a shout .....beach 5 mins away, and Baywatch in the lineup :smokin:

 

[geardownthreegreens]

If you are ever near Brighton give me a shout .....beach 5 mins away, and Baywatch in the lineup :smokin:

So long as you promise none of the other members see me playing it seriously tho, think Baywatch is a very underated game. Cool tunes and vid modes. I'll let you know Griz,cheers.

Si

 

[simon]

Yep, baywatch one of the better DE / sega pins for sure, I like it so much I own 2 best value for money pin I can think of by quite some margin actually.

also Frankenstein, Star Wars , secret service (!), tftc all very good, plus lots of others really ..

 

[Sgt GrizZ]

The Baywatch Appreciation Society swells by the day .....oooh errr :smokin:

 

[pinballmania]

Time machine , Frankenstein, baywatch for me.

 

[roadshow16]

LAH, GnR and a toss up for 3rd spot between Baywatch and Frankie, though I only have very limited experience of TFTC and Tommy

 

[Calimori]

From my playing experience it is hard to separate Tommy and GnR for first. Then I might plump for TFTC for that loop ramp but not sure I could own the theme without a really dark games room.

 

[Sgt GrizZ]

From my playing experience it is hard to separate Tommy and GnR for first.

As much as I dearly love Tommy ....I would prob give the nod to GNR. They just went balls out on that game and threw everything in .... 2 plungers, magnets, drop targets, captive ball play area....

Though I think a finely tuned and highly polished Tommy (yes like mine :redface is a thing of beauty.

 

[Sgt GrizZ]

http://pinside.com/pinball/top-100/various/manufacturers

For what its worth ....Over on Pinside the current Top 5 DE rated games are ...

1. GnR
2. JP
3. Tommy
4. TFTC
5. SW

 

[cooldan]

oh ********

 

[Mooseman]

Guns n roses
A bit of moose love for R&B
Star Wars

 

[Spandangler]

JP
GNR
WWFRR. Oooooooooh yeeeaaah

 

[Fintan Stack]

Guns N Roses and TFTC for me. With Tommy and JP joint third.

Honorable mention to Time Machine because it was a great concept.

 

[Fintan Stack]

Damn. Forgot LW3. Can't forget about LW3.

 

[steve brum]

SW
Tommy
Phantom of the Opera (looks and sounds alone!)
GnR
Starship Troopers

 

[I TiltAlot]

None of them, I'm not keen on Data Least machines...

 

[PeteB]

Phantom of The Opera gets my vote. But I love all Data East games, and I'm really enjoying Hook at the moment.

Checkpoint is good fun also.

 

[replicas]

G'n'R, Tommy and Tales from the crypt.

D.

And for looks alone Phantom of the Opera.