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Are Forums Doomed In March 2024 (Online Safety Act - unfeasible demands on site owners)

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Sorry if this is in the wrong place.
Football forums, Guitar forums etc (some 20 years old) are discussing pulling the plug out in March because of fear of Ofcom fines for non-compliance.
Non-compliance can be not submitting risk assessments properly (for example and the threatened fines are huge.
Here is a football site owner post from last night:

"Unless something changes in the Online Safety Act that is, as it is due to take full effect in March 2025.
RTG despite being relatively small falls foul of the majority of the conditions and continuing to provide the service will simply not be practical with the resources we have (both people and monetary wise).
In a nutshell, we have to do lots of risk assessments before that date, have lots of written procedures in place to deal with them, delete any content which is illegal, but also have a complaints process in place so that anyone who complains about their content being removed has that addressed promptly. We will also have to prevent children accessing the platform and put age verification measures in place and will have to scan uploaded content to check it isn't harmful. There is a whole lot more to it than that but hopefully you get the idea - it will all just be too onerous. The potential fine for not complying is £18 million or 10% of company turnover whichever is greater.

Have a read of 👉 this post 👈 on another forum as that admin puts it all more eloquently than I ever could, but broadly the same applies here"


I can direct you to another discussion on a Guitar Forum where the owner discusses at length the impossibility of him being able to meet the fantastical demands of Ofcom to comply with the Act.

Thanks for reading and look forward to any comments. Everyone is looking for an answer.
 
First i have heard of it. If it becomes an issue i'll just move the location where the forum is hosted - you have to abide by the laws of the country that the server "lives" in... simple as... THATS the answer!

Just breaking down what is written above -

Delete any content that is illegal - well we kind of do that nowadays anyhow...
Complaints process - use the "Contact us" form
Age verification - who knows....If this becomes law there will be an easy way of doing it
 
First i have heard of it. If it becomes an issue i'll just move the location where the forum is hosted - you have to abide by the laws of the country that the server "lives" in... simple as... THATS the answer!

Just breaking down what is written above -

Delete any content that is illegal - well we kind of do that nowadays anyhow...
Complaints process - use the "Contact us" form
Age verification - who knows....If this becomes law there will be an easy way of doing it
First I'd heard of it last night and it goes live on March 16th. Theresa May is the source of the original Bill that went through Parliament.
It's at the stage now where Ofcom are finalising stuff with the Secretary Of State.
There's a lot of info online (Gov, Ofcom etc) - I can post links.
Hosting Forums in other countries but with UK target audience is covered in the Act I'm afraid.
The work involved is intense to say the least. Continual risk assessments, age verification, image screening, complaints procedures, training bla bla




 
Hosting Forums in other countries but with UK target audience is covered in the Act I'm afraid.
The govenment can only govern their lands. They cant govern others. can you send a parcel from the USA to the UK without collecting tax for the UK government? Of course! What they gonna do - Ban "pinballinfo" forums from UK screens?? I dont think so.
I also dont think this is aimed at the likes of us - but thats just my opinion.

I remember when GDPR came out and everyone was saying "oh thats the death of forums" etc. Is easy and quick to handle. As long as you know the rules, its fine. And they arent difficult.
All i would say is - Dont believe a lot of the hype that you read on random forums...
 
I've spent all of today reading the Gov blurb and as much of the Ofcom blurb that it's possible for a human to read.
I hope you are right and the small forums (SMEs in blurb) onerous burden will be given a final hour special category (categories not yet fully finalised)
Here are the Risk Assessment blurb should you decide to view it.
Good luck and kind regards.

 
This is the implementation guidance: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets...des-of-practice-for-user-to-user-services.pdf

Don't think this site classifies as Large or Multi-risk so looks like as long as the Report button works this place should be fine?
All U2U sites are in the scope of the Act with odd exceptions. Newspaper sites with U2U comments sections are not within the scope of the Act because free press is the bedrock of democracy (or words to that effect).
Any site where user to user shares posts, pics, vids, messages bla bla is within the scope.
Sites where only SMS & MMS (?) texts are shared are not within the scope.
 
This is the implementation guidance: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets...des-of-practice-for-user-to-user-services.pdf

Don't think this site classifies as Large or Multi-risk so looks like as long as the Report button works this place should be fine?
Yeah, agreed. Lots of people misunderstanding and panicking when it barely affects small forums. I think it's the regularly appearing 'we're all doomed' title in posts about this that's causing a bit of the hysterics across the internet.

 
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The govenment can only govern their lands.
Doesn't stop them trying though :D
I remember when GDPR came out
The main upshot of which from a users perspective is an irritating nag screen whenever you visit a site.

If its like any of the other measures they put in place to make online "safer" it will probably only hinder anyone its intended to help. Age rating is a good example ? Now you have to fill in your age before going to certain sites.. Oh noes.. Is there a workaround ;)

(Cynic mode off :D)
 
Newspaper sites with U2U comments sections are not within the scope of the Act because free press is the bedrock of democracy (or words to that effect).

<Checks out who owns most of the hate rags in this country > Righto.

Free press . In the UK. Good one 🤣🤣🤣
 
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