What's new
Pinball info

Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

replacing the backbox fluorescent tube

cooldan

i like pizza
10 Years
Joined
Jul 21, 2011
Messages
6,827
Location
Ealing, London
let's face it, flourescent tubes in Sterns (and their earlier incarnations) look terrible. they're usually glarey, they can have loud buzzing ballasts, and sometimes they're wired in to the powerbox bypassing the switch, so they're on even if the game is switched off.

my original solution many years ago was a sheet of brown coloured heatproof plastic gel off ebay, wrapped around the tube a couple of times it makes it much less glarey and may be all that's needed. but i wanted to go further this time and replace the tube with an LED strip powered from the boards.

someone told me to get 12V strips - may have been @Wayne J i think - so i found this seller with a choice of lengths, colours and light intensities http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161230174915?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=460280855085&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT and bought a 3m coil of warm white in 'SMD5050', the top one of the three brightnesses.
also some connectors from this lot - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371324038174?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=640554155959&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT


i cut the LED strip into three of 1m each so i could do three games with it, to reduce the load. and i soldered the wires in that connector thing, and just cut the other end off.

IMG_3808.JPG
IMG_3817.JPG
then i identified a 12V and ground source on the board - thanks @aaronhicksuk - and plugged it in. first thing that happened after about 10sec is that it blew fuse F8 which is a 5A fuse.

apparently it's 14.4Watts per metre so that's 14.4W/12V = 1.2A so i'm gonna put this inline 2A fuse in the power line, not sure why that >5A happened. these are from here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111572656278?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
.jpg

so this is it now - ok it's not perfect but it's no worse than the original fluorescent tube, and it's not on unless the game is switched on, and it's a good starting point.i tried the strip in a couple of positions but haven't found the ideal one yet.


it looks from these pictures like a really nasty strip of glaring light, but that's mostly a digital camera thing, in real life to the human eye it's not as bad as that ....

IMG_3830.JPG

i tried to focus on his bonce to show you what i mean - depending on where the (phone) camera samples the light intensity, it adjusts the overall contrast ...... you get the idea.IMG_3833.JPG

this was my second position, about a third of the way down. you can see i'd already moved the tube to the top, as it's original position stopped me accessing the boards.IMG_3828.JPG

and this was the first attempt, with the strip right at the top of the glass.IMG_3825.JPG

i think i expected i was gonna be able to just use the sticky back on the LED strip to attach it to the translite/backglass, but of course it turned out that that would make the light point the wrong way entirely, so i had to attach it to a length of plastic instead. ideally it should be further from the glass so it needs tweaking.IMG_3826.JPG


this is where i am getting my 12V and ground from, with some simple wire connecting splicer thingies. i guess the inline 2A fuse will need to go just below the lower of the two blue splice-connectors, on the red power line?
IMG_3824.JPG


IMG_3823.JPG

IMG_3820.JPG

so this is where i pick the hive mind to get some ideas and input:

- what length, and what location works best for this task?
- is 12V the best power source?
- what can go wrong and how can i prevent against this? obviously the fuse needs to be on the power line to the LED strip to keep the board safe, but what else should i look out for?
- what colour and what intensity are recommended? i'm not an LED fan at all so i know nothing about warm vs cool light and all that stuff, but i was starting from a fluorescent tube, so it was never gonna be perfect.
- what other sources can people suggest for alternative LED strips, and what should be my general rule for these - minimal power and intensity over the widest area is what i'm thinking.

i think i'm considering using some of the SMD3528 stuff next as it's only a third of the power, maybe use two long strips instead, and connect them together with the connector jobbies.
 
Last edited:
There was a thread on pin side
RSSTweet
DIY: How to make an LED backbox for ~$30 for modern Sterns
It's got some good stuff on it might give you some ideas
 
cheers Tony, i may borrow a few of the ideas on that thread.
i'm suprised nobody suggested he add a fuse to it though ...... and it looked as if he was using a hell of a lot of lights on one 12V circuit, that's a lot of amps, right?
 
Back
Top Bottom