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No Longer Available Project Bally MR & MRS PAC-MAN

Nedreud

Nedreud

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TO BE CLEAR THIS IS NOT BEING SOLD BY ME.

I contacted the owner, D. Hodges, of a MR & MRS PAC-MAN that was listed on PinballOwners.com. He's based in Exeter, Devon. The machine is listed here:

http://www.pinballowners.com/dihodges

With the note:

"ANY offer considered. Not working at the moment but has worked recently and wouldn't take too much to get working."

Judging the condition to be poor from the rather hazy photos I offered what I thought to be a reasonable £150 (which is around what I paid for PARAGON and GOLD BALL, both in similar non-working heavily worn/faded condition). He replied to say he was hoping to get more like £500. I politely replied to say that £550 would buy you a very nice working M&MPM from this forum, and also mentioned the recent sale of FUTURE SPA for £495, just to give an idea of prices.

He then sent me some more pictures, which although they were higher resolution are still very hazy (see below) and said he was open to negotiation. I re-evaluated my desire and upped my absolute maximum offer to £200 over a week ago. I got a reply tonight to say that he couldn't let it go for anything less than £250. I take it that means he'd take £250 for it.

I simply don't have that much cash. £150 was pushing it and £200 is over-budget meaning I'd have to sell something quite big. But I wanted to let the community know in case there was anyone out there thinking this is just the project they want at just the right price...

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Ouch my eyes!

But...


Altek pcb , s n t , power.block . 250 in those alone.

Frame the glass . Burn the rest lol
 
5 x 7 digit displays. Almost forgot how great pacman is for donating

2nd dibs please. If anyone wants empty cab I can save it
 
After an extremely generous offer from a fellow forum member who lives locally to collect the machine and bring it up nearer to me when they're over this way thus saving me £50 in petrol, I've decided I'm going to match the asking price and buy this machine. I also hadn't noticed it's got an ALTEK MPU which is a definite plus.

MR & MRS PAC-MAN is a bit of a grail pin for me. It was to be the first pin I was going to buy but it fell through, and then I missed another project M&MPM that got sold on here as I'd already committed to buying VECTOR. It's another Marmite pin because of the video game tie-in, a move which many purists feel was pinball selling out. Me, I like the underdog and I like annoying purists ;)

Also, you're all SCARING THE SH*T out of me with all this talk of scrapping and burning of classic pinball machines :eek: PLEASE STOP! As you know I love saving and restoring these old crappy Bally machines. I might be slow, but I'm heading the right direction!
 
ill put out some feelers for a replacement playfield. this game sold in shedloads back in the day

Ask Andrew M if he can check with Baz as its the sort of thing he might have

Pacman was very frowned upon back in the day but cant have been just because it was a vid game tie in Defender has always been fawned over. Mainly I think it was the biase of the rules towards a non pinball skill ie the pacmaze or that it was seen as a bit "girly".
 
Thanks, @steve brum. Somehow :rolleyes: I've already managed to gather a few spares for this title; a SQUAWK & TALK sound board with PAC-MAN ROMs, the manual, etc,...

It probably is a bit "girlie" and it certainly isn't the most challenging game in terms of skills or rules, but hey! it's pinball and a cool video game all in one box!
 
the theme has made it a sleeper as the retro crowd love anything pacman. it also sold in much higher numbers than revered classics like centaur fathom and even EBD so the public liked it!
 
From a search on IPDB there are 41 pinball machines where production exceeded 10,000 units. M&MPM sitting at #31:

Code: 
#   NO.     MFG       TYPE NAME
1   20,270  Midway    SS   The Addams Family
2   20,230  Bally     SS   Eight Ball 
3   19,505  Williams  SS   Flash 
4   18,250  Bally     SS   Playboy 
5   17,410  Williams  SS   Firepower 
6   17,080  Williams  SS   High Speed 
7   17,000  Bally     SS   Kiss 
8   16,842  Bally     SS   Star Trek 
9   16,260  Bally     SS   Mata Hari 
10  16,155  Bally     EM   Capt. Fantastic and The Brown Dirt Cowboy 
11  15,235  Midway    SS   Twilight Zone 
12  15,202  Williams  SS   Terminator 2: Judgment Day 
13  14,550  Bally     SS   Harlem Globetrotters On Tour 
14  14,502  Williams  SS   F-14 Tomcat 
15  14,000  Williams  SS   Gorgar 
16  14,000  Bally     SS   Evel Knievel 
17  13,750  Bally     SS   Power Play 
18  13,640  Williams  SS   Fish Tales 
19  13,259  Williams  SS   The Getaway: High Speed II 
20  13,075  Williams  SS   Black Knight 
21  12,950  Gottlieb  SS   Sinbad 
22  12,820  Bally     SS   Strikes and Spares 
23  12,716  Williams  SS   Indiana Jones: The Pinball Adventure 
24  12,250  Gottlieb  EM   Royal Flush 
25  12,001  Williams  SS   PIN·BOT 
26  11,728  Williams  SS   Star Trek: The Next Generation 
27  11,652  Williams  EM   Space Mission 
28  11,400  Bally     SS   Space Invaders 
29  11,000  Bally     SS   Xenon 
30  10,750  Williams  SS   Funhouse 
31  10,600  Bally     SS   Mr. & Mrs. Pac-Man Pinball 
32  10,554  Williams  EM   Grand Prix 
33  10,400  Data East SS   Star Wars 
34  10,350  Bally     SS   Silverball Mania 
35  10,350  Data East SS   Lethal Weapon 3 
36  10,340  Bally     SS   Supersonic 
37  10,330  Bally     SS   Lost World 
38  10,320  Bally     SS   The Six Million Dollar Man 
39  10,300  Gottlieb  EM   Spirit of 76 
40  10,150  Williams  EM   Aztec 
41  10,005  Bally     EM   Wizard!

Quite a lot of games on that list that I've never even see let alone played.
 
Nedreud said:
From a search on IPDB there are 41 pinball machines where production exceeded 10,000 units. M&MPM sitting at #31:

Code: 
#   NO.     MFG       TYPE NAME
1   20,270  Midway    SS   The Addams Family
2   20,230  Bally     SS   Eight Ball 
3   19,505  Williams  SS   Flash 
4   18,250  Bally     SS   Playboy 
5   17,410  Williams  SS   Firepower 
6   17,080  Williams  SS   High Speed 
7   17,000  Bally     SS   Kiss 
8   16,842  Bally     SS   Star Trek 
9   16,260  Bally     SS   Mata Hari 
10  16,155  Bally     EM   Capt. Fantastic and The Brown Dirt Cowboy 
11  15,235  Midway    SS   Twilight Zone 
12  15,202  Williams  SS   Terminator 2: Judgment Day 
13  14,550  Bally     SS   Harlem Globetrotters On Tour 
14  14,502  Williams  SS   F-14 Tomcat 
15  14,000  Williams  SS   Gorgar 
16  14,000  Bally     SS   Evel Knievel 
17  13,750  Bally     SS   Power Play 
18  13,640  Williams  SS   Fish Tales 
19  13,259  Williams  SS   The Getaway: High Speed II 
20  13,075  Williams  SS   Black Knight 
21  12,950  Gottlieb  SS   Sinbad 
22  12,820  Bally     SS   Strikes and Spares 
23  12,716  Williams  SS   Indiana Jones: The Pinball Adventure 
24  12,250  Gottlieb  EM   Royal Flush 
25  12,001  Williams  SS   PIN·BOT 
26  11,728  Williams  SS   Star Trek: The Next Generation 
27  11,652  Williams  EM   Space Mission 
28  11,400  Bally     SS   Space Invaders 
29  11,000  Bally     SS   Xenon 
30  10,750  Williams  SS   Funhouse 
31  10,600  Bally     SS   Mr. & Mrs. Pac-Man Pinball 
32  10,554  Williams  EM   Grand Prix 
33  10,400  Data East SS   Star Wars 
34  10,350  Bally     SS   Silverball Mania 
35  10,350  Data East SS   Lethal Weapon 3 
36  10,340  Bally     SS   Supersonic 
37  10,330  Bally     SS   Lost World 
38  10,320  Bally     SS   The Six Million Dollar Man 
39  10,300  Gottlieb  EM   Spirit of 76 
40  10,150  Williams  EM   Aztec 
41  10,005  Bally     EM   Wizard!

Quite a lot of games on that list that I've never even see let alone played.
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Many of this list are SS. I suspect loads were operated to death and then went to the pinball graveyard as the DMD era kicked in and they all suddenly looked ancient. And the home collectors market didn't exist on the scale it does now.
 
Mr & Mrs Pac-man was the first pinball my family ever owned back in 1986 ish. Its what started it all for us and its still one of the best bally games from the 80s era in my view. The pac maze is a great feature and the skill shot is probably the best about. We used to have pencil lines drawn on the shooter rod for the 'sweet spot' to launch the ball. There's also a pattern you can learn to completing mazes and who doesn't love the pac-man speech of

"Pac Man Aggressive"

I actually use the pac-man sound rom set to test my new s&t board remakes as i love the speech so much :)
 
Just heard back from the seller. Deal done! I'm in. Just need to finalise the logistics.

But this also means I've crossed a critical threshold in the life of a pinball collector: I've finally bought more machines than I have space for :eek:

My summerhouse/office/pinshack most definitely only fits 3 pins in a row... unless I remove my desk that is! Then I reckon I could squeeze in one more in the corner at 90 degrees to the other 3. Definitely no room for the cocktail video game though. That'll will obviously HAVE to come indoors which is ok as the missus actually likes it.
 
Super_Dave said:
Good machine for keeping the Mrs happy I am sure! Pac-Man makes all the girls happy :)
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It would be a miracle if PAC-MAN made my wife happy. My first pin nearly caused a divorce. And let's not mention the debacle that was pin number 2. Pin 3 kinda slipped "under the radar" as it was supposed to be for spares ;) Of course we won't talk about my wife's hobbies and interests - like 4 cats that cost £500 a year in insurance alone or £50 sacks of cat biscuits every 2 months (and one cat cost £500 just to buy - nearly as much as my first 3 pins all together!)
 
But now that we've reached cat-pinball equilibrium it means I have to accept more cats if I want more pinballs o_O

Don't get me wrong, I do love the cats. But my argument that the cats cost way more than pinballs simply does not compute in some minds.
 
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